WrightJnr Posted October 29, 2014 Share And back to the OP's question then ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Oh yes, the carbon crank puts it way above ,I forgotXT hippie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 29, 2014 Share And back to the OP's question then .........Don't hold back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted October 29, 2014 Share Don't hold back.No no, I'm done. I've already given my perfect advise early in the thread. My work here is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_David_ Posted October 29, 2014 Share IMO the biggest differences are: Epic Elite = Wheel set (Roval Control 29 alloy wheelset), front fork (RockShox SID fork w/ Brain) vs Epic Comp = Wheel set (Roval 29 alloy disc rims), front fork (RockShox Reba RL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted October 29, 2014 Share IMO the biggest differences are: Epic Elite = Wheel set (Roval Control 29 alloy wheelset), front fork (RockShox SID fork w/ Brain) vs Epic Comp = Wheel set (Roval 29 alloy disc rims), front fork (RockShox Reba RL).What does the "Control" give you for the wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 29, 2014 Share What does the "Control" give you for the wheels?Really looks like you are done.Is this a rhetorical question or a serious question ? OP Get the bike that does not have a brain fork, your services will be much cheaper in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Really looks like you are done.Is this a rhetorical question or a serious question ? OP Get the bike that does not have a brain fork, your services will be much cheaper in the long run.Agreed, if you have some money to burn later, upgrade the wheels to carbon. More than that is def not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 29, 2014 Share XT hippie. Not really, it is just how the hierachy works .Saying that, I have X/O on my one bike with an XT crank, I had an XX crank and after spending more money on BB's in one year than beer, I decided enough is enough.I also know a lot of guys who prefer the Shimano brakes to the Sram brakes.In the end of the day, the shifters and the derailleurs make the biggest impact. Sram were clever with XX, design a gruppo not very different to XO and suddenly you have more people buying our XO gruppo because the next one up is out of reach for the common man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 29, 2014 Share Agreed, if you have some money to burn later, upgrade the wheels to carbon. More than that is def not needed.Johnny I see tot many issues with carbon MTB wheels, their only benefit is really weight and there are many alloy wheel sets rivalling the weight of the lightweight carbons nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Not really, it is just how the hierachy works .Saying that, I have X/O on my one bike with an XT crank, I had an XX crank and after spending more money on BB's in one year than beer, I decided enough is enough.I also know a lot of guys who prefer the Shimano brakes to the Sram brakes.In the end of the day, the shifters and the derailleurs make the biggest impact. Sram were clever with XX, design a gruppo not very different to XO and suddenly you have more people buying our XO gruppo because the next one up is out of reach for the common man.You are right with regards to xx, not worth it. I just think that X0 is slightly better than xt, also quite a lot more expensive. XT brakes are the bomb, but recently rode x0 trail brakes, and those are just as good. I love x0, so I am not biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Johnny I see tot many issues with carbon MTB wheels, their only benefit is really weight and there are many alloy wheel sets rivalling the weight of the lightweight carbons nowadays.I have the Roval carbon wheels, not the SL version. I absolutely hammer them, and they remain true. I just love them. They came std with my Spez Epic, my girlfriend has the Comp Epic, with the Alloy wheels. And when I ride her bike, that is the first thing I notice. Cheap wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 29, 2014 Share You are right with regards to xx, not worth it. I just think that X0 is slightly better than xt, also quite a lot more expensive. XT brakes are the bomb, but recently rode x0 trail brakes, and those are just as good. I love x0, so I am not biased.X/O is much more expensive and not really justifiably so.The mechanisms in the XT shifters are unrivalled ,their derailleurs are simply bomb proof.Shimano actually make mind blowing cranks, to the extent where they couldn't even bother dabbling with carbon in order to keep up with the competition.Sram runs the 1:1 ratio and that is why it works better in mud, when the cables get dirty and stick you need less cable slack to move the rear mech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 29, 2014 Share I have the Roval carbon wheels, not the SL version. I absolutely hammer them, and they remain true. I just love them. They came std with my Spez Epic, my girlfriend has the Comp Epic, with the Alloy wheels. And when I ride her bike, that is the first thing I notice. Cheap wheels.Those wheels on the Epic comp are a real budget wheel and weigh a tonne . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_David_ Posted October 29, 2014 Share Those wheels on the Epic comp are a real budget wheel and weigh a tonne . The Roval Control wheels on the Epic Elite seems like a decent alloy wheelset @ 1550g? http://www.specialized.com/za/en/ftb/wheels/roval-mtb-xc-race/roval-control-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted October 29, 2014 Share The Roval Control wheels on the Epic Elite seems like a decent alloy wheelset @ 1550g? http://www.specialized.com/za/en/ftb/wheels/roval-mtb-xc-race/roval-control-29Yip, a far better option than the ones on the comp.So money gets saved there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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