Ryanpmb Posted November 6, 2015 Share And, one more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted November 6, 2015 Share ImageUploadedByTapatalk1441371542.390067.jpg Yikes! Those bottle cages?!... Bin them, man. This bike deserves some King Cages, Salsa Nickless cages or Arundel Stainless cages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugheaddave Posted November 6, 2015 Share This is my basic touring setup. 1x10 32-42 Chinese carbon frame, Arch wheels. Cannondale save seatpost, XT brakes. (it also happens to be my training bike.) I will be doing the Rhodes to Cradock portion of the Freedom Trail in March with this set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonky Posted November 6, 2015 Share Hi guys,I'm busy planning a touring bike for longish (500km) touring trip in December to get a feel for touring.Using a Niner EMD alu frame, Niner carbon fork, currently running 3x9 and drop bars..What are the pros and cons of panniers with saddlebags (front & rear) vs. some of the fancy seat and handlebar bags by Revelate (or similar)?.Would appreciate some input before spending what appears to be $$$..thanks for any tips / advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Mo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Hi guys,I'm busy planning a touring bike for longish (500km) touring trip in December to get a feel for touring.Using a Niner EMD alu frame, Niner carbon fork, currently running 3x9 and drop bars..What are the pros and cons of panniers with saddlebags (front & rear) vs. some of the fancy seat and handlebar bags by Revelate (or similar)?.Would appreciate some input before spending what appears to be $$$..thanks for any tips / adviceYou're going down the rabbit-hole, man! Welcome - I got there a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Mo Posted November 6, 2015 Share My 2c.... Racks and panniers:great for road only or light off roadgreat for long toursgreat for capacitycost can be $$$$wheels need to be STRONGBike bags:great balanced feel to bikeoff road awesomeforces you to pack sensiblycheaper in the long run than racks and pannierssew your ownWHEELS NEED TO BE STRONGTrailer:easy on the wheels - no beasts need to be made (40 or 48hole)extrawheel awesome - better for off road - still need panniersBOB awesome - better for road, unless you get a Ibex and $$$I was in the pannier/rack camp until recently - changed to bags s my aim. Reinforced by a recent trip with home made frame bags. I had only a small bit of luggage, yet I still packed too much. The minimalist nature of it appeals to me. When I have my full rig done, I will be multi month self-sufficient. Enjoy the road, man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Mo Posted November 6, 2015 Share And, one more...image1.JPGPoser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted November 6, 2015 Share What are the pros and cons of panniers with saddlebags (front & rear) vs. some of the fancy seat and handlebar bags by Revelate (or similar)? .Would appreciate some input before spending what appears to be $$$..thanks for any tips / adviceSo bag choice is mostly a question of how much you want to carry vs how light you you like to go. I've ridden with a handlebar box: This was on a 600km audax, unsupported, but we were allowed a drop bag for the midpoint, so allowing to carry less. I carried lots of food, rain jacket, and some other small essentials e.g. sun cream, toilet paper Pros:easy to access things while ridingCons:Heavy 1226gCant use it with areo barsAffects the feel of the steering of the bike (not so much of an issue on the road, but would not like to ride that on a sandy gravel road.For TransAfrica, I used frame bag + saddle bag + triathlon bag Needed to carry quite a bit more: Clothing: leg warmers, arm warmers, winter gloves, 2nd bib, sleeping shorts + t shirt, 2nd pair of socks, rain jacketToiletries: toothpaste, toothbrush, chamois cream, suncream, mosquito repent, face cloth, deodorant, toilet paperMechanical stuff: Multitool, pump, 3x tubes, 2x CO2 canisters + valve, spare front and rear lights, chargers for cellphone, gps lights,Food: rehydrate powered, Gu's (together approximately 1kg)and...an invalid passport I was really amazed on how I could fit this all in, with space to spare. Pros:Light weight. The frame bag weighs 172g, the sadel bag weighs 317gCons:Space for frame bag is limited by the frame. Works well for me on my large road bike, but if you have a small frame, or you have a sloping top tube (common on MTB) then they don't fit so well.I've never ridden with panniers. I would be weary carrying too much weight. Try go out for a ride with an extra 5kg attached to your bike, you will feel it on the first hill you get to. Then try go out with 15kg. You will hate it. I know I'm coming from racing experience, not leisure touring, but I still stand by what I'm say, you need to keep the weight down. Edit: corrected weights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted November 6, 2015 Share Hi allIm looking at maybe building a long distance touring type if bike, I never tried fitting 700c road bike wheels to a MTB frame, Anybody ever did this?Would the frame need to be 26, 27.5 or 29’r to fit those wheels? And then of course these will be built on MTB disk hubs…Your input? So 1 thing not mentioned yet on this topic is you just need to watch out for differences in hub width. Most QR MTB have a hub width of 135mm, and most road bikes 130 mm. With through axel, some MTB have wider hubs. Note the a rear wheel with a wider hub is stronger to a wheel with a narrower hub (with all other things equal) due to the fact that it is less dished. Further reading: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Mo Posted November 6, 2015 Share So bag choice is mostly a question of how much you want to carry vs how light you you like to go. I've ridden with a handlebar box:2014-03-21-08.54.28-Large.jpg This was on a 600km audax, unsupported, but we were allowed a drop bag for the midpoint, so allowing to carry less. I carried lots of food, rain jacket, and some other small essentials e.g. sun cream, toilet paper Pros:easy to access things while ridingCons:Heavy (I'll weigh it when I get home)Cant use it with areo barsAffects the feel of the steering of the bike (not so much of an issue on the road, but would not like to ride that on a sandy gravel road. For TransAfrica, I used frame bag + saddle bag + triathlon bag12079144_925304934172668_316036202573361088_n.jpg Needed to carry quite a bit more: Clothing: leg warmers, arm warmers, winter gloves, 2nd bib, sleeping shorts + t shirt, 2nd pair of socks, rain jacketToiletries: toothpaste, toothbrush, chamois cream, suncream, mosquito repent, face cloth, deodorant, toilet paperMechanical stuff: Multitool, pump, 3x tubes, 2x CO2 canisters + valve, spare front and rear lights, chargers for cellphone, gps lights,Food: rehydrate powered, Gu's (together approximately 1kg)and...an invalid passport I was really amazed on how I could fit this all in, with space to spare. Pros:Light weight. The frame bag weighs 90g, the sadel bag weighs 220gCons:Space for frame bag is limited by the frame. Works well for me on my large road bike, but if you have a small frame, or you have a sloping top tube (common on MTB) then they don't fit so well. I've never ridden with panniers. I would be weary carrying too much weight. Try go out for a ride with an extra 5kg attached to your bike, you will feel it on the first hill you get to. Then try go out with 15kg. You will hate it. I know I'm coming from racing experience, not leisure touring, but I still stand by what I'm say, you need to keep the weight down.Mmmm...Apidura. Very nice stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted November 6, 2015 Share So bag choice is mostly a question of how much you want to carry vs how light you you like to go. I've ridden with a handlebar box:2014-03-21-08.54.28-Large.jpg This was on a 600km audax, unsupported, but we were allowed a drop bag for the midpoint, so allowing to carry less. I carried lots of food, rain jacket, and some other small essentials e.g. sun cream, toilet paper Pros:easy to access things while ridingCons:Heavy (I'll weigh it when I get home)Cant use it with areo barsAffects the feel of the steering of the bike (not so much of an issue on the road, but would not like to ride that on a sandy gravel road.For TransAfrica, I used frame bag + saddle bag + triathlon bag12079144_925304934172668_316036202573361088_n.jpg Needed to carry quite a bit more: Clothing: leg warmers, arm warmers, winter gloves, 2nd bib, sleeping shorts + t shirt, 2nd pair of socks, rain jacketToiletries: toothpaste, toothbrush, chamois cream, suncream, mosquito repent, face cloth, deodorant, toilet paperMechanical stuff: Multitool, pump, 3x tubes, 2x CO2 canisters + valve, spare front and rear lights, chargers for cellphone, gps lights,Food: rehydrate powered, Gu's (together approximately 1kg)and...an invalid passport I was really amazed on how I could fit this all in, with space to spare. Pros:Light weight. The frame bag weighs 90g, the sadel bag weighs 220gCons:Space for frame bag is limited by the frame. Works well for me on my large road bike, but if you have a small frame, or you have a sloping top tube (common on MTB) then they don't fit so well.I've never ridden with panniers. I would be weary carrying too much weight. Try go out for a ride with an extra 5kg attached to your bike, you will feel it on the first hill you get to. Then try go out with 15kg. You will hate it. I know I'm coming from racing experience, not leisure touring, but I still stand by what I'm say, you need to keep the weight down.I was going to ask of any of your new bags had a pocket for a valid passport... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted November 6, 2015 Share Poser!You know it! I was getting tired of riding up that road for you to get the perfect shot!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonky Posted November 9, 2015 Share thank you CHRO MO and GARYVDM :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Mo Posted November 9, 2015 Share I think Gary is WAAAY more qualified than I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troi Sport Posted November 11, 2015 Share getting excited!! ASCENTUSD: $1,199.95 Whether a daily commute or a trans-continental expedition, the Ascent is built for adventure. Capable of fitting 650b mountain tires, 700c road tires or anything in between, there is little this bike cannot do. Available in four sizes, the Ascent is perfectly paired with the Zeta II disc and a set of EvoMax bars for the most versatile, capable Ritchey ever.Designed as a do-it-all adventure bike with a full complement of mountsRitchey forged and machined 1 1/8" integrated head tubeRitchey design CrMo fork with lowrider, rack and fender mountsAvailable in Break-Away versionFits tires up to 650x2.1" (mountain) or 700x 40c (cross)Headset includedhttp://ritcheylogic.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/640x480/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/s/ascent-break-away-frameset.jpg I ordered the the break away version http://ritcheylogic.com/frames/mountain/ascent-frameset.html 4 of these are leaving the Ritchey Factory today 2 medium2 large Arriving on the 16th Getting very excited now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJG Posted November 12, 2015 Share So bag choice is mostly a question of how much you want to carry vs how light you you like to go. I've ridden with a handlebar box:2014-03-21-08.54.28-Large.jpg This was on a 600km audax, unsupported, but we were allowed a drop bag for the midpoint, so allowing to carry less. I carried lots of food, rain jacket, and some other small essentials e.g. sun cream, toilet paper Pros:easy to access things while ridingCons:Heavy 1226gCant use it with areo barsAffects the feel of the steering of the bike (not so much of an issue on the road, but would not like to ride that on a sandy gravel road.For TransAfrica, I used frame bag + saddle bag + triathlon bag12079144_925304934172668_316036202573361088_n.jpg Needed to carry quite a bit more: Clothing: leg warmers, arm warmers, winter gloves, 2nd bib, sleeping shorts + t shirt, 2nd pair of socks, rain jacketToiletries: toothpaste, toothbrush, chamois cream, suncream, mosquito repent, face cloth, deodorant, toilet paperMechanical stuff: Multitool, pump, 3x tubes, 2x CO2 canisters + valve, spare front and rear lights, chargers for cellphone, gps lights,Food: rehydrate powered, Gu's (together approximately 1kg)and...an invalid passport I was really amazed on how I could fit this all in, with space to spare. Pros:Light weight. The frame bag weighs 172g, the sadel bag weighs 317gCons:Space for frame bag is limited by the frame. Works well for me on my large road bike, but if you have a small frame, or you have a sloping top tube (common on MTB) then they don't fit so well.I've never ridden with panniers. I would be weary carrying too much weight. Try go out for a ride with an extra 5kg attached to your bike, you will feel it on the first hill you get to. Then try go out with 15kg. You will hate it. I know I'm coming from racing experience, not leisure touring, but I still stand by what I'm say, you need to keep the weight down. Edit: corrected weights Gary, where did you get your frame and saddle bag from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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