Bic Mac for race nutrition

[NicoBoshoff]

 

 

the olympic village is a mass catering logistic operation. AFAIK mcdonalds as a sponsor do some of it, BUT they don't do their off the street menu. You get a chicken stir fry, not a big mac. 

Fair enough.

[NicoBoshoff]

Yup good reason not too it's full of crap: http://benhessel.com/fathead/

 

It seems like everything these days is bad for you, sugar is bad, this causes cancer, that causes this. I'm over it. While I do need to lose some weight (Damn you quitting smoking). I will just ignore all these things and enjoy life while living a moderately healthy lifestyle (everything in moderation). And if the occasional Mcd's or Burger King or Whatever ends up killing me, srew it I lived.

I'm still waiting to hear if certain hubbers have chucked their cellphones in the ocean because the radiation "might, maybe, could" cause cancer...

[Brian Fantana]

Irrespective which eating plan, lifestyle or diet you follow it is always better to make your food from scratch as far as reasonably practicle. Real food as close to natural form as possible.

 

You don't know the origin of the beef used for a burger, nor do you know which processes it went through. It is much better to buy fresh beef from your local butcher and make your own patties. The end result will be tastier as well. If you invest in high quality kitchen appliances you'll be amazed at how quick and easy it is to prepare proper meals.

[Joe Low]

University of Montana?

 

They got nothing better to do up there but count the mooses, meese, meeses, moosai  big animals with antlers.

[Brian Fantana]

Yup good reason not too it's full of crap: http://benhessel.com/fathead/

 

It seems like everything these days is bad for you, sugar is bad, this causes cancer, that causes this. I'm over it. While I do need to lose some weight (Damn you quitting smoking). I will just ignore all these things and enjoy life while living a moderately healthy lifestyle (everything in moderation). And if the occasional Mcd's or Burger King or Whatever ends up killing me, srew it I lived.

I agree with sentiment of your post, but the word occasional needs to be workshopped though.

 

If occasional means once a month or so, it is probably not an issue, but the problem I see is when unhealthy habits become a routine. Carbohydrates, especially sugar have a addictive effect on certain individuals which means that even occasional consumption is not an option.

[NicoBoshoff]

I agree with sentiment of your post, but the word occasional needs to be workshopped though.

 

If occasional means once a month or so, it is probably not an issue, but the problem I see is when unhealthy habits become a routine. Carbohydrates, especially sugar have a addictive effect on certain individuals which means that even occasional consumption is not an option.

Do yourself a favour and read these two's work.  It's not so much about attacking the conclusions, but rather the poor science behind getting to what is given as conclusions, but are in fact unfounded theories:

 

http://www.signwithane.com/

 

http://synapses.co.za/series/noakes/

[IceCreamMan]

Seems Ruby was spot on with the "marketed very very well" part of it.

 

We have had threads on here debunking USN products but still the myth persists that one has to have product X and Y to operate optimally. But hey, who I am to argue against a multi billion dollar vitamin/health etc industry.

 

The article is also quite clear as to the frequency of macdonalds meals after workouts...seems some ous don't read so good.....

 

the human body is an amazing instrument, why do we continually believe marketers into thinking it is not. I am the first to admit the study here has its shortcomings and should be put to test over a longer period of time etc....but lets not be closed to the fact that we don't need all the fancy overpriced crap we buy.... 50 bucks for a granola bar in a fancy wrapper, have we lost our minds...

[NicoBoshoff]

Irrespective which eating plan, lifestyle or diet you follow it is always better to make your food from scratch as far as reasonably practicle. Real food as close to natural form as possible.

 

You don't know the origin of the beef used for a burger, nor do you know which processes it went through. It is much better to buy fresh beef from your local butcher and make your own patties. The end result will be tastier as well. If you invest in high quality kitchen appliances you'll be amazed at how quick and easy it is to prepare proper meals.

I'm sorry, but that only goes to revealing the whole "fast food is junk food" argument as food snobbery. 

[Hairy]

I call BS on that. BK for the win...

exactly, might as well close this thread now already

[EZRider]

I'm sorry, but that only goes to revealing the whole "fast food is junk food" argument as food snobbery.

Food snobbery or not, fast food is full of junk. Sugar and salt and saturated fats are causing obesity epidemics.

The science demonstrating this is available and fairly simple.

 

Once you become accustomed to whole grain, nutritious foods burgers don't even taste good anymore.

Eating crap isn't reverse snobbery or "having lived", it is just that: eating crap.

 

I have lost 46 kg and my cycling has improved tenfold through eating good food and it's only recently that I have started really living again.

 

Fast food is cheap and easy.

Healthy food is more expensive and harder to prepare.

Eat whatever you like just don't complain when hypertension or insulin resistance lowers your standard of living.

The info is out there, easy to find and easy to understand.

[NicoBoshoff]

 

The science demonstrating this is available and fairly simple.

 

Once you become accustomed to whole grain, nutritious foods burgers don't even taste good anymore.

Eating crap isn't reverse snobbery or "having lived", it is just that: eating crap.

 

 

 

Eat whatever you like just don't complain

 

"Food snobbery or not, fast food is full of junk. Sugar and salt and saturated fats are causing obesity epidemics."

 

Uhm, no.  People stuffing their faces and doing no exercise and living unbalanced lifestyles is what is causing obesity epidemics. Pretty sure people get plenty dik from chowing R150 organic paleo "look at me" burgers.

 

"I have lost 46 kg and my cycling has improved tenfold through eating good food and it's only recently that I have started really living again."

 

Is your diet literally all you changed?  And by that I mean what you ate.  Or did you start exercising more, eating less, eating with more moderation and now LCHF or Paleo or whatever is getting all the shine?

 

"Fast food is cheap and easy.

Healthy food is more expensive and harder to prepare."

 

Yes, and?  Stop pretending that I am saying people should live on McD's.  I'm saying it's not so binary / all or nothing.  Balance!

 

"when hypertension or insulin resistance lowers your standard of living."

 

From what?  A Big Mac once a week?  Doubt it.

 

"The info is out there, easy to find and easy to understand."

 

Yes. There is info backing a moderate approach to diet as well.  As with all things in life I tend to steer well clear of extremism or fundamentalism. 

[Brian Fantana]

I'm sorry, but that only goes to revealing the whole "fast food is junk food" argument as food snobbery.

I did not once say that fast food is junk. I just mentioned that one does not know the exact origin or processes fast food went through before it is sold to the customer. And I just mentioned that the food we make at home is tastier compared to fast food, in OUR OPINION.

[EZRider]

"Food snobbery or not, fast food is full of junk. Sugar and salt and saturated fats are causing obesity epidemics."

 

 

 

Uhm, no. People stuffing their faces and doing no exercise and living unbalanced lifestyles is what is causing obesity epidemics. Pretty sure people get plenty dik from chowing R150 organic paleo "look at me" burgers.

 

"I have lost 46 kg and my cycling has improved tenfold through eating good food and it's only recently that I have started really living again."

 

Is your diet literally all you changed? And by that I mean what you ate. Or did you start exercising more, eating less, eating with more moderation and now LCHF or Paleo or whatever is getting all the shine?

 

"Fast food is cheap and easy.

Healthy food is more expensive and harder to prepare."

 

Yes, and? Stop pretending that I am saying people should live on McD's. I'm saying it's not so binary / all or nothing. Balance!

 

"when hypertension or insulin resistance lowers your standard of living."

 

From what? A Big Mac once a week? Doubt it.

 

"The info is out there, easy to find and easy to understand."

 

Yes. There is info backing a moderate approach to diet as well. As with all things in life I tend to steer well clear of extremism or fundamentalism.

Like I said: eat what you want.

You have strong opinions on what constitutes "junk" food but your argument advocates moderation which is another topic altogether.

Being moderate, excercising more, and other lifestyle changes are all important. They do not, however, decrease the sugar, salt and fat content of a Big Mac.

One burger a week won't hurt you, neither will one whiskey or one cigarette. That being true does not make any of the above healthy choices.

[NicoBoshoff]

I did not once say that fast food is junk. I just mentioned that one does not know the exact origin or processes fast food went through before it is sold to the customer. And I just mentioned that the food we make at home is tastier compared to fast food, in OUR OPINION.

I am certain it is.  I am perhaps unfairly projecting my own irritations with smug a-holes out there that think you're some sort of lazy bum for not cooking everything from scratch.  Of course it's tastier (unless I cook it...), just not always possible or affordable.

[Brian Fantana]

Do yourself a favour and read these two's work. It's not so much about attacking the conclusions, but rather the poor science behind getting to what is given as conclusions, but are in fact unfounded theories:

 

http://www.signwithane.com/

 

http://synapses.co.za/series/noakes/

From your posts it is pretty obvious that you have beef (see what I did there) with Noakes, LCHF, Paleo or anything that is not in "moderation". I am not here to defend or criticise any point of view, I am just stating my opinion.

 

What I was trying to say was that "moderation" is a word with a very wide scope of interpretation. It is like a high school kid saying he wants to be an engineer (doesn't mean a lot without specifying the discipline)

 

One person's moderation might help him to stay healthy. Another person's idea of moderation might get them into health problems over the long term.

[Brian Fantana]

I am certain it is. I am perhaps unfairly projecting my own irritations with smug a-holes out there that think you're some sort of lazy bum for not cooking everything from scratch. Of course it's tastier (unless I cook it...), just not always possible or affordable.

I understand your frustration 100%. The "looking down upon" attitude of some people causes a lot of arguments and frustrations. It is the same when "craft beer connoisseurs" (who only started drinking beer a year ago) pull up their noses when they see me drinking Lion or Hansa, which I have been doing for the last 15 years.