Leaking Avid Elixir5's

[rouxtjie]

Yeah....water laced dot fluid boils at a much lower temp than clean dot fluid which boils about the same temp as shimano brake oil but some people go and put any old oil in them which may not be formulated for a high boiling point....

 

 

 

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booom the irony explained. 

 

water laced mineral will pool and wont contaminate the oil's boiling point. 

[CdT85]

booom the irony explained. 

 

water laced mineral will pool and wont contaminate the oil's boiling point. 

 

Still doesn't change the fact, that my shimanos (hopefully bled with shimano mineral oil) either bind up or fade away on the same descends where my avids work fine?  

[CdT85]

But we are all drifting waaay off topic..thread was about advice on fixing my brakes, not the debate about shimano/sram...

[Halfdoesyn]

Can anyone say: Land Rover?

 

Happy Friday!

[JXV]

2 years a Juicy 7 owner.....Avid lost me for good.

 

My 1st hydraulic brakes were Hope C1s ..... brilliant feel and power but they had rigid sealed chambers and would pump up on long hills.

 

Then the Juicy's....yech!

 

Shimano ever since. Ultra reliable but yeah I'm keen for some 4-pot Hopes ever since I had a short ride on them. Just so much more .....precise.... than anything else.

 

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[Rocket-Boy]

Yeah....water laced dot fluid boils at a much lower temp than clean dot fluid which boils about the same temp as shimano brake oil but some people go and put any old oil in them which may not be formulated for a high boiling point....

 

 

 

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Its Friday and I have many threads to troll...

So you are saying that its a bad thing when I use that 50% water mix in my brakes??!?!?!

[rouxtjie]

But we are all drifting waaay off topic..thread was about advice on fixing my brakes, not the debate about shimano/sram...

thought we covered that....gooi die kuk weg. Jy gaan geld mors om dit reg te maak want hulle gaan weer breek en weer breek en weer breek en weer breek

 

en weer breek

[CdT85]

thought we covered that....gooi die kuk weg. Jy gaan geld mors om dit reg te maak want hulle gaan weer breek en weer breek en weer breek en weer breek

 

en weer breek

 

Nie n manier ek koop weer Shimano nie, teensy daar n groot verskil is in performance tussen XT en deore? Sal maar nog steeds SRAM Guides verkies as ek dit nou kon fund

[JXV]

Ok back to fixing those Avids.

Strip totally (at least you can, Shimano's downside), clean rinse and dry everything.

 

Download the manual and follow it exactly. Work on clean hard surfaces using no cloths or other source of fibres. Clean fresh brake fluid from a new bottle. New olives. Clean the threads and sockets where hoses screw in. Trim hose ends with a sharp stanley knife or similar. Cut them square and clean. Insert hose barbs if needed. Reassemble. Make sure all seals inserted in the right direction.

Hang vertically for bleeding. Use the proper kit and make sure the little o rings on the bleed adapters are in good nick and the right size.

 

De aerate the fluid. Follow the exact sequence in the manual. Air temds to stick in a few places so a rebleed may be needed after a good test ride has shaken all the bubbles loose.

 

Good luck.

 

I rebuilt some Avid CRs for a friend recently and had no issues so it is doable.

 

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[rouxtjie]

Ok back to fixing those Avids.

Strip totally (at least you can, Shimano's downside), clean rinse and dry everything.

 

Download the manual and follow it exactly. Work on clean hard surfaces using no cloths or other source of fibres. Clean fresh brake fluid from a new bottle. New olives. Clean the threads and sockets where hoses screw in. Trim hose ends with a sharp stanley knife or similar. Cut them square and clean. Insert hose barbs if needed. Reassemble. Make sure all seals inserted in the right direction.

Hang vertically for bleeding. Use the proper kit and make sure the little o rings on the bleed adapters are in good nick and the right size.

 

De aerate the fluid. Follow the exact sequence in the manual. Air temds to stick in a few places so a rebleed may be needed after a good test ride has shaken all the bubbles loose.

 

Good luck.

 

I rebuilt some Avid CRs for a friend recently and had no issues so it is doable.

 

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Great summary and advice. Do this OP or supervise somebody doing it.

 

Sorry for the Shitmano / Sram grappies

[CdT85]

Ok back to fixing those Avids.

Strip totally (at least you can, Shimano's downside), clean rinse and dry everything.

 

Download the manual and follow it exactly. Work on clean hard surfaces using no cloths or other source of fibres. Clean fresh brake fluid from a new bottle. New olives. Clean the threads and sockets where hoses screw in. Trim hose ends with a sharp stanley knife or similar. Cut them square and clean. Insert hose barbs if needed. Reassemble. Make sure all seals inserted in the right direction.

Hang vertically for bleeding. Use the proper kit and make sure the little o rings on the bleed adapters are in good nick and the right size.

 

De aerate the fluid. Follow the exact sequence in the manual. Air temds to stick in a few places so a rebleed may be needed after a good test ride has shaken all the bubbles loose.

 

Good luck.

 

I rebuilt some Avid CRs for a friend recently and had no issues so it is doable.

 

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Thanx mate,  Wil strip, clean and rebuild the levers tonight and return it to my lbs to have them rebled. Will have to invest in a proper bleed kit to do it myself in future 

[CdT85]

Great summary and advice. Do this OP or supervise somebody doing it.

 

Sorry for the Shitmano / Sram grappies

 

All good. Het darem alles as grappe gevat. Ek ry n ford, so is gewoont aan grappe.   Weet mos nou al teen die tyd enigiets avid gewys sal n redelike uproar kry en baie comments sal gemaak raak.  

[CdT85]

Can anyone say: Land Rover?

 

Happy Friday!

N land rover is dan so n goeie kar..60% van hulle wat al ooit gemaak is is nog op die pad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

die ander 40% het dit huis toe gehaal

[Lefty V]

Good Morning Everyone,

 

I have a whee bit of an issue with my Avid's (and no, I do not want shimano so don't go there )

I bought a set of elixir 5 of the classifieds last year, supposedly just serviced etc and they leaked out all their brake fluid while lying on my shelf while I finished my teocali.    (don't buy from one hit wonders on the classifieds)

 

I ended up buying rebuild kits from Revolution Cycles, rebuilt the levers and calipers and had the brakes hoses shortened and the brakes bled by a lbs.

 

Last night, not two weeks later, I see the rear brake caliper lever dripping fluid where the hose goes into the brake lever (just rebuilt). From the bleed, right of the bat, the rear brake nearly pulled right to the handlebar before the rear brake bit, where the front lever was perfect. The rear just got more and more spongy and i cant brake while in the seated position, but after seeing the brake lever leak I understand why.

 

I did some online searches and everyone states I should replace the lever internals (already did that).

Is there a chance the olive was installed incorrectly? The brakes was redone by a very reputable bike shop.

Or is there some other flaw I am missing?

 

Looking forward to your input.

A slightly damaged olive got me in similar position.(by reputable LBS when swapping levers around - new) I would advise you to get your own bleed kit (it is rewarding to know what to do and that you can service them if you feel like it/need to) but even if not, have someone replace  the olive.

 

The chorus telling you to get rid of them etc. are not helping you here. I was in similar position and it was a very simple easy fix, but getting there I had to deal with 2 LBS mechanics and a bunch of "expert know-it-alls" rolling their eyes knowingly and telling me to just toss the brakes... without helping me to get to the truly minor problem. 15000km on mine since then and have done one bleed before TransAlp just to be sure bike was in top shape, not because of any issue.

[CdT85]

A slightly damaged olive got me in similar position.(by reputable LBS when swapping levers around - new) I would advise you to get your own bleed kit (it is rewarding to know what to do and that you can service them if you feel like it/need to) but even if not, have someone replace  the olive.

 

The chorus telling you to get rid of them etc. are not helping you here. I was in similar position and it was a very simple easy fix, but getting there I had to deal with 2 LBS mechanics and a bunch of "expert know-it-alls" rolling their eyes knowingly and telling me to just toss the brakes... without helping me to get to the truly minor problem. 15000km on mine since then and have done one bleed before TransAlp just to be sure bike was in top shape, not because of any issue.

 

Bleed kit is the next gadget on my shopping list. Will pop into the bike shop tomorrow and return it to be rechecked. Just funny that I'm having this issue, as I only decided to use this bike shop on recommendation from my fellow hubbers that they are the go to people for avid brakes...

Hope its nothing mayor and that is just something as simple as an olive

[Pure Savage]

I would change to rim brakes, wither Chimano or Shram. The UCI has said they are really dangerous.