'Dale Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 SNIP SNIP Berto, even though he is something of a fading force, is still a smart tactician and canny racer. Amazing ride from him! SNIP SNIP Sent from my GT-S6790 using TapatalkBerto must just stay on his bike and stop crashing ????Some skills lessons from Sagaaaan to refresh him will prove useful
Gen Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 If they stuck to the rules only 91 riders would start tomorrow the rest were all outside the time limit. But the organisers will no doubt look the other way.. And Brailsford would have a fit as ja..besides Froome I think all of sky came in after time limit.
Gen Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 https://twitter.com/friebos/status/772481189470990339
'Dale Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 ***WATCHING THE REPLAY COMMENT*** At 99.6 km for the red jersey, watching Valverde and another rouleur mess with the chasing train, surging and stalling And, in turn, isolating Froome Dawg as an unintended result Fantastic racing Astute
Mntboy Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Berto must just stay on his bike and stop crashing ????Some skills lessons from Sagaaaan to refresh him will prove usefulHe must hurry up and get those lessons from Sagz before they part ways, hey! But ja it would certainly help Berto's cause if he can stop having crashes and/or bad luck. That said there's a fair few younger riders coming through that's out performing some of the older guard and that older guard includes Berto. Berto is still a damn fine rider and hugely entertaining to watch! Sent from my GT-S6790 using Tapatalk
Frosty Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 The official Vuelta website hasn't been updated.ProcyclingStats shows JJvR was a DNS just below 70th position. Am I the only one happy that Froome eventually had a bad day without his team for support. It's not that I dislike him, but he didn't have his team to control the pace and was unable to react to other riders that were a little smarter (on the day).
Gen Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 The official Vuelta website hasn't been updated.ProcyclingStats shows JJvR was a DNS just below 70th position. Am I the only one happy that Froome eventually had a bad day without his team for support. It's not that I dislike him, but he didn't have his team to control the pace and was unable to react to other riders that were a little smarter (on the day).Ja.. Froome perhaps relies too heavily on his team.. and it's quite clear that the team sky have at the Vuelta is not nearly as strong as the TDF. The tactics sky use can't work all the time.. Maybe that's the problem when you only focus on the TDF..you perhaps neglect the other GC and how you prepare for the season. Sky did a lot of work yesterday, Movistar were very smart today in taking advantage of that. Had Froome not found an ally in Astana the gap would've been a lot bigger or Froome would have had to do a lot more work. Still a lot of racing left.. Froome rode negatively and perhaps gambled on orica closing the gap? Go back to may 2015 Motorola stage.. and what Astana did to Bert and how he responded.
Bonus Posted September 4, 2016 Author Posted September 4, 2016 What an amazing day out! We just drove home from Biescas via Fiscal - so we did the middle of the stage in reverse (drove down the climbs they rode up) and I can only say that I bet the tv didn't give an accurate impression of how long and how steep they are! Short report and pics to follow - waiting for camera battery to charge.
Gen Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 What an amazing day out! We just drove home from Biescas via Fiscal - so we did the middle of the stage in reverse (drove down the climbs they rode up) and I can only say that I bet the tv didn't give an accurate impression of how long and how steep they are! Short report and pics to follow - waiting for camera battery to charge.Awesome.. can't wait to read the report.
scotty Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 And the Chris Froome Appreciation Society wants us to believe that Beefy Berto isn't the best GC rider of his generation! Berto, even though he is something of a fading force, is still a smart tactician and canny racer. Amazing ride from him! As for Froome, he got but slaughtered today. Sent from my GT-S6790 using TapatalkYeah riding the TDF and RIO as opposed to riding on fresh legs will do that. El Dopo tried it with the Giro and TDF before and got slaughtered.
Gen Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Yeah riding the TDF and RIO as opposed to riding on fresh legs will do that. El Dopo tried it with the Giro and TDF before and got slaughtered.His own choice. It's incredibly hard to do the double..be it GIRO TDF or TDF Vuelta double. I think today Froome was just outsmarted.
Gen Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 https://twitter.com/Jan_Bakelants/status/772476420291457024
HappyMartin Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Yep. Outsmarted. But it was Contador that did the outsmarting. Quintana was alert and followed Contadors lead. Movistar also nailed it when they saw the chance. A great day racing. I'm well pleased for Brambilla. And Quintana actually. Sorry Contador couldn't finish it off. I'm now hoping Froome makes a comeback. It's about the racing.
Gen Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 Yep. Outsmarted. But it was Contador that did the outsmarting. Quintana was alert and followed Contadors lead. Movistar also nailed it when they saw the chance. A great day racing. I'm well pleased for Brambilla. And Quintana actually. Sorry Contador couldn't finish it off. I'm now hoping Froome makes a comeback. It's about the racing.Yip..Bert blew that race apart.. and you know the signs were there that he was making plans before the flag dropped..and when the flag dropped tinkoff were very aggressive.. how sky didn't see what was coming is a mystery.. we could all see that something big was going to happen. Also worked out well for Bert that Nairo was with him and a lot of Movistar in the chase disrupting everything.. and you have to love the way they did it.. so so smart.
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