sh*tmaNo fails Robbie Hunter

[madmarc]

A Little Bit of History

Shimano and Campagnolo have been around in one capacity or another for quite a long time. Tullio Campagnolo' date=' a retired professional cyclist, founded Campagnolo in 1933. The company?s first product idea was a version of a quick release skewer (because his fingers froze during a race in the Alps) and they later pioneered advancements in multi-speed shifting technologies in the late 40?s and 50?s. Meanwhile, Shozabura Shimano put Shimano Iron Works on the map in 1921 when he developed a single speed freewheel. Shimano followed Campagnolo into the multi-speed component market in the 50?s and later developed the first market accepted indexed shifting systems. Shimano also introduced the dual control brake lever (shift and brake with the same control lever) to the public, which their marketing department called STI (Shimano Total Integration).

The number of patents issued can be a good indicator of a company?s commitment to research and development (R&D) and innovation. The STI technology has been protected by one of 477 bicycle related patents the U.S. has granted Shimano since 1976. Shimano is also a diversified company that has other business ventures (fishing reels and snow boots/bindings) in which they have been issued an additional 557 U.S. patents. Product diversification allows the lessons learned in one part of the company to be transferred to another ? often times this is a good thing.

On the other hand, Campagnolo has only 45 bicycle related patents in the U.S since 1976. (because kempekker has no real technology on offer)Shimano?s recent innovative technology, diversified business interests, significant investment in R&D and the close geographic proximity to the manufacturing Mecca of Southeast Asia has allowed Shimano to become the largest bicycle component manufacturer in the world.

The long-standing history of both companies should re-assure the consumer, however. These companies will stand behind their product if there is a problem during the warranty period (3 years for all Campy products and Dura Ace and 2 years for the rest of the Shimano line) and they won?t skip town like some manufacturers did during the mid 90?s CNC craze.

 

Die brokkie geskiedenis laat mens nogal dink ne!!!!!!

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And heres some really interestring history

 

http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/milestones/index.jsp

[stratus5]

Hi

 

Not trying to be a smart alec, everybody is right, just talking about different versions of the Dura-ace crankset.

 

Latest version (as in the picture with a broken crank arm) looks as follows

 

[madmarc]

Hi

 

Not trying to be a smart alec' date=' everybody is right, just talking about different versions of the Dura-ace crankset.

 

Latest version (as in the picture with a broken crank arm) looks as follows

 

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With this model Tikki would be correct, as i was referring to the previous model with crank bolts

[Guest Big H]

The kempekker poeples can write!!!!!!!!!! ...... well well well I would never have guessed that!!!!!!!!! They must have hired somebody with intelligence to do that for them, this type of technology, if you measure it to their infreior equipment is sooooo far above their capabilities!!!!!!!!!

[E1A104]

The kempekker poeples can write!!!!!!!!!! ......

 

Guess that is the reason why you use Shimano then Kimberley.

[Guest Big H]

The kempekker poeples can write!!!!!!!!!! ......

 

Guess that is the reason why you use Shimano then Kimberley.

 

teeee heeeeee !!!!!!! you are still as humorous, witty, sharp and full of bubbles as always!!!!!!!!

[Pocketbikes]

 

A Little Bit of History

 

Shimano and Campagnolo have been around in one capacity or another for quite a long time. Tullio Campagnolo' date=' a retired professional cyclist, founded Campagnolo in 1933. The company?s first product idea was a version of a quick release skewer (because his fingers froze during a race in the Alps) and they later pioneered advancements in multi-speed shifting technologies in the late 40?s and 50?s. Meanwhile, Shozabura Shimano put Shimano Iron Works on the map in 1921 when he developed a single speed freewheel.    Shimano followed Campagnolo    into the multi-speed component market in the 50?s and later developed the first market accepted indexed shifting systems. Shimano also introduced the dual control brake lever (shift and brake with the same control lever) to the public, which their marketing department called STI (Shimano Total Integration).

 

The long-standing history of both companies should re-assure the consumer, however. These companies will stand behind their product if there is a problem during the warranty period (3 years for all Campy products and Dura Ace and 2 years for the rest of the Shimano line) and they won?t skip town like some manufacturers did during the mid 90?s CNC craze.

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ai ai ai, only 2 years. Must be because they followed Campy. At least Campy stands by their product.

 

[Pocketbikes]

No pop corn yet? Who's on pop corn duty today.... you are fired for being late

[The Pirate]

The fight between Shimano and Campy is like the old fight between BMW and Merc ! But now SRAM ( Audi ) is looking to steal the show from them.

[AndreZA]

I woul dlike to see any one of the two actually stick to only one year of their warrentee. There is this little line in the warrantee that says "warrantee does not cover malfuntioning due to abbuse, regular, abnormal or normal use".

 

 

[bob_the_builder]

 

I woul dlike to see any one of the two actually stick to only one year of their warrentee. There is this little line in the warrantee that says "warrantee does not cover malfuntioning due to abbuse' date=' regular, abnormal or normal use".

 

 

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I've seen hunter sprint... definitely qualifies as abnormal use anyway...

 

[Pocketbikes]

 

I woul dlike to see any one of the two actually stick to only one year of their warrentee. There is this little line in the warrantee that says "warrantee does not cover malfuntioning due to abbuse' date=' regular, abnormal or normal use".

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You are most probably correct. I put out about 50 watts, so mine will last just short of my lifetime.

 

I was just trying to stir, hate being on the sideline

 

[madmarc]

MMMMM  not bad for todays topic 3rd place in views @ 1458 and 2nd place for responses @75

 

Now to think up something to get the hubbers worked up about tomorrow.

 

 

[Myra]

MMMMM  not bad for todays topic 3rd place in views @ 1458 and 2nd place for responses @75

 

Now to think up something to get the hubbers worked up about tomorrow.

 

 

 

A poll to see how many hubbers have actually ridden (and I don't mean a test ride around the parking lot) both Campag and Shimano and still prefer one or the other.

 

And by Campag and Shimano I mean Record and Dura-Ace - one can't compare Veloce to Ultegra or 105 to Record.  But how many people out there have actually had an opportunity to ride both and be in the position to make a qualified decision before ripping either one off?  Only the pro's?

 

Me thinks not many.

[Guest Big H]

I ride a Shimano XT groupset on our Mtb Tandem....... with what kempekker groupset will I compare it????? Oh wait...... kempekker does not have a Mtb groupset, they had one but again .... like so many other kempekker products it was a failure!!!!!!! and they keep on ignoring this big sector of the market with disgusting disrespect!!!!!!!!

[Pocketbikes]

 

I ride a Shimano XT groupset on our Mtb Tandem....... with what kempekker groupset will I compare it????? Oh wait...... kempekker does not have a Mtb groupset' date=' they had one but again .... like so many other kempekker products it was a failure!!!!!!! and they keep on ignoring this big sector of the market with disgusting disrespect!!!!!!!![/quote']

 

By using this philosophy, Ferrari, Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Alfa, Bently, SAAB, Volvo, Lexus, Renault and a few others must be **** as they don't have any vehicles in the pick-up/bakkie market, which is a large market.