FanieFiets Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Dont buy a Toyota HiAce. Dont know about being jacked but has the highest figure for being stolen. Logical explanation for it though.
_Daemon_ Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 These shots should make you feel better in the rain.... http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=2329960#poststop glad that there is no bike jacking..... There's lots of bike jackings happening, know of a couple of people that got jacked.
_Daemon_ Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Yep' date=' you have burst my bubble.................LOL What is the mentality behind mugging someone, then to have to shoot them. Is that becasue they feel you will come back and hunt down there family so to speak? Every city in the world has its bad bits, your just gets bought to the attention of the world more, a shame really. Stats wise it is up there though...... I guess they will be trying hard to clean this up by the Football WC in 2010.... Have been 6 times to South Africa, never had an issue either. touch wood, crossed fingers, arm, legs, tung...... [/quote'] Not to optemistic about 2010...I doubt we are going to host the worldcup, We are too far behind, but let's see, hopefully I am wrong. That said what happens to all the people that got employed for 2010 and all the buildings, housing, stadiums etc that got builded? I see a increase in crime after 2010.
FanieFiets Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Daemon. Ek moet se dit is die mees ongeligte, pessimistiese, stupid stelling wat ek in 'n lang tyd gehoor het!!!!
_Daemon_ Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Daemon. Ek moet se dit is die mees ongeligte' date=' pessimistiese, stupid stelling wat ek in 'n lang tyd gehoor het!!!![/quote'] Perhaps, but let's see.
dirtrider Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Fanie ou maat waneer laas het jy 'n koerant gelees ??? Daar is nie 'n manier dat dinge sal reg wees vir hierdie 2010 fiasko nie en soos Daemon gese het waar gaan al daai hordes werkloses eweskielik heen as die werk klaar is ? Maar ek sal graag jou optimistiese weergawe wil hoor , miskien kan ek ook opgewonde raak oor die 2010 snert !
FanieFiets Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Koerante verkoop sensasie, nie mooi nuus nie. Maar almal is seker geregtig op hulle eie opinies. Ek het nagraads bietjie ekonomie gedoen en die spin-offs van die ekonomiese groei en die siftingsproses van iets soos die world cup is enorm. Maar dit gaan verseker nie vir ons grondvlak ouens wees om pessimisties en negatief oor dit te wees nie. Ek kies om positief oor die storie te wees.
dirtrider Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Dis mooi om dit te hoor . Ek sien elke dag met my eie twee ogies hoe hulle probeer om 'n gat te grou vir een of ander trein . Hulle grou nou al twee maande aan die gat . Ek wil een aand gaan kyk want ek is seker iemand gooi die gat elke aand weer toe ! . Ekonomies sal dit great wees as ons govermunt by een of ander budget kan hou . Ek gaan ook partykeer so paar miljoen oor budget en is dan nog alright maar 'n paar biljoen oor budget !!! Anyway ek het nou die arme kerel se thread ge-high jack en sal nou eerder die spinman lede gaan lastig val .
Whafe Posted October 12, 2006 Author Posted October 12, 2006 Lost the conversation there Daemon, hope you are worng about the 2010 WC, that is an opportunity to totally have the world se SOuth Africa in a different light is it not? The people of South Africa surely must understand this, maybe not, but are they educating or attempting to educate on this?
bikemonster Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 To give an opinion on avoiding being car-jacked... As others have said, be vigilant. From what I have read, car jackers will look for easy targets. If somebody is walking up to your car, keep eye contact. If it's a beggar at least give them the human respect of telling them that you are not giving them anything. If it's a bad 'un at least you will have seen them before they are standing at your shoulder, and there is at least a chance that they will move on to an easier target. As for car choice, as far as I can make out, most car jackings are to meet demand. Either demand for executive cars (BMW 3 series, Merc C class, Audi A4), or to be chopped for cheap midnight spares (Toyota Corolla, VW Golf etc.). In other words, popular aspirational cars and top selling cars. My advice is to find a car (that you like) that does not fit into either of those categories. Both of the above points are made with some reservation - they are both the result of my consideration of the issues but I do not have stats to back either up.
MichH Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 Hey, Subaru's rock, and they seem to be a very low hijack risk. You can get a nice Outback, space for bikes, holidays, etc.
bikemonster Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 Hey, MichH, I was not for a minute suggesting anybody should buy a car that sucks. Trust me, I am as much a petrolhead as a pedalhead.
Whafe Posted October 13, 2006 Author Posted October 13, 2006 To give an opinion on avoiding being car-jacked... As others have said' date=' be vigilant. From what I have read, car jackers will look for easy targets. If somebody is walking up to your car, keep eye contact. If it's a beggar at least give them the human respect of telling them that you are not giving them anything. If it's a bad 'un at least you will have seen them before they are standing at your shoulder, and there is at least a chance that they will move on to an easier target. As for car choice, as far as I can make out, most car jackings are to meet demand. Either demand for executive cars (BMW 3 series, Merc C class, Audi A4), or to be chopped for cheap midnight spares (Toyota Corolla, VW Golf etc.). In other words, popular aspirational cars and top selling cars. My advice is to find a car (that you like) that does not fit into either of those categories. Both of the above points are made with some reservation - they are both the result of my consideration of the issues but I do not have stats to back either up.[/quote'] Good points BM, I guess that puts an Audi A4 out of the question!. mmmm that is waht i have at present in Europe. A subaru may well be th ego, have had 5 of them, they rock...............
Chris J Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Hi Whafe, the Audi A4 is not that high on the risk scale, but still up there PM me your email address and I can send you some stats on the car For info, the top one's as follows: TOYOTA HIACE 1119NISSAN 1400 507TOYOTA HILUX 497TOYOTA VENTURE 270TOYOTA COROLLA 209NISSAN HARDBODY 141MITS COLT 125ISUZU KB280 122ISUZU KB250 114VW CITI GOLF 103TOYOTA CONQUEST 88BMW 318 77VW CHICO GOLF 75TOYOTA STALLION 69VW MICROBUS 67FORD COURIER 65AUDI A4 62NISSAN 1 TON 61TOYOTA DYNA 60VW POLO CLASSIC 59BMW 320i 58FORD RANGER 57TOYOTA TAZZ 55TOYOTA HINO 53MITS L300 52FORD BANTAM 51 Strangely enough, the following have a very low risk of hi jacking (This is not to say that their theft rate is as low) BELL0BMW 333i0BMW 5200BMW 640i0BMW 730i0BMW 750i00BMW 850i0CHRYSLER WRANGLER0CITROEN BERLINGO0CITROEN C50DAF0DAEWOO LANOS0DAEWOO NUBIRA0DMA 3,5 TON0DUCATTI 900SS0FIAT SECEINTO0FORD DRIFTER0FORD RANCHERO0FORD SIERRA0FORD WINDSTAR0FORD HORSE0HONDA X 2000HONDA CD 2000HONDA CB250N0HONDA MOTORBIKE0HYUNDAI SANTAFE0HYUNDAI SONATA0INTER HARVESTER0ISUZU 4X40ISUZU JCR 5000ISUZU JCR 7000ISUZU JCR 8000ISUZU KB2700ISUZU KB280 D/C0ISUZU N25000ISUZU N3500D0JEEP COUNTRY0KAWASAKI ZXC 9R0KIA K24000KIA PREGIO0KIA SHUMA0LADA NIVA0MAZDA ASTINA0MAZDA 2.6 DC0MAZDA MX60MAZDA RX80MAZDA SOHO0MAZDA V18000MERC 192850MERC A1900MERC 190E0MERC 220E0MERC 260E0MERC 280E0MERC 420SE0MERC 560SEL0MERC 300TE0MERC C2500MERC CLK2000MERC E2300MERC E42000MERC E4300MERC MB8000MERC SL3000MERC SL6000MERC V-SERIES0NISSAN 200Sti0NISSAN 200GXR0NISSAN 780FC0NISSAN CABALL0NISSAN CK300NISSAN CK2900NISSAN CM120NISSAN CM140NISSAN CW45HDF TT0NISSAN SX 2000NISSAN TIP0NISSAN UD3500NISSAN QX0OPEL ESTATE0OPEL RECORD0PEUGEOT 4060PORSCHE BOXTER0ROWA T.V. SET0SUZUKI GS5000SUZUKI GSXR6000SUZUKI GSXR7500SUZUKI TL1000R0TOYOTA 1800 PV0TOYOTA MR20TOYOTA PREVIA0TOYOTA SPRINTER0TRIUMPH TIGER0VOLVO V600VOLVO V700VW CITI Cti0VW JETTA 16V EXEC0VW PANELVAN0VW SHUTTLE0VW SONIC0YAMAHA AG2000YAMAHA R10
Chris J Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Oops, the info is so secret i had to hide it, just highlite the empty space there
Whafe Posted October 16, 2006 Author Posted October 16, 2006 64 Audi A4 Car jackings is enough to caution to me.... Or is it best to throw caution to the wind and not give a F, more or less..................... Hang in New Zealand, no one would bother flogging a Toyota...
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