_freak_ Posted July 5, 2019 Share Hi AllI replaced the 105 rear derailer on my Giant gravel bike with an XT derailer to enable me to run a bigger sprocket at the rear.No im a little stock as the "gap" between the cable routing on the frame and the pully on the XT derailer is a bit short... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted July 5, 2019 Share know it doesn't solve your cable routing issue but you could have kept the 105 on there and bought one of these: https://www.evobikes.co.za/components/wolftooth-roadlink-10-11spd.html rapide also makes one at a tastier price https://www.rapide.co.za/product/rapide-derailleur-hanger-extender/ quick fix to that problem imo if you were happy with the 105. Grubscrew and Pure Savage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_freak_ Posted July 5, 2019 Share well well.... didnt know about that...Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted July 5, 2019 Share but id be willing to give the short cable housing a try first if I were you?...the angle doesn't look THAT awkward on your pic.Just make sure the little hook on the derailleur arm thing where it bolts onto hanger sits right against the one on the hanger...tighten it in this position.Cut the housing so it goes in on both sides with a few mm extra so you have to bend it slightly to get it in?Route the cable and fasten but don't cut it yet. see if it works throughout the range once you set the gears. Found some other examples of shortish cables in this area that seem to work: edit: funny enough the bottom one uses a Goat/Roadlink too i see lol Edited July 5, 2019 by morneS555 DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_freak_ Posted July 5, 2019 Share cool, ill give it bashI have some extra housing I will cut first to test... was just unsure about that angle...but if it works for someone else it work... not gonna buy the extension, already had the expense for the XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashchest Posted July 5, 2019 Share Just keep in mind the wolftooth will not extend the range of your derailure. It can increase rear capacity, but the derailure range needs to remain in spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_freak_ Posted July 5, 2019 Share understoodthe 105 & XT both are 11spd and the pull ratio on the 105 & XT are the same, i checked this with LSB first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted July 5, 2019 Share I think Ashchest means the total tooth capacity of chain slack that the derailleur is capable of picking up (this is the main difference between short, medium and long cage deraillerurs). I haven't used one of the hanger extenders but I don't think that they compensate for this - as I understand it, they only have the effect that you can accommodate a larger low gear on the rear derailleur but they don't enable you to take up more chain slack than the derailleur is able to accommodate as standard from the factory. If I am incorrect in this regard, I would appreciate hearing from one of the other posters on the subject. Wannabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_freak_ Posted July 5, 2019 Share I think Ashchest means the total tooth capacity of chain slack that the derailleur is capable of picking up (this is the main difference between short, medium and long cage deraillerurs). I haven't used one of the hanger extenders but I don't think that they compensate for this - as I understand it, they only have the effect that you can accommodate a larger low gear on the rear derailleur but they don't enable you to take up more chain slack than the derailleur is able to accommodate as standard from the factory. If I am incorrect in this regard, I would appreciate hearing from one of the other posters on the subject. make sense...the XT i got is comparable with the sprocket set i bought... and the XT is comparable with the 105 shifter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted July 5, 2019 Share ^shimano Saint (what i run)/Zee rear derailleur is short cage and specked up to 36T stock...even though it can be pushed to 42 because the B screw is long enough....but it works better with n goat-link as you dont have to crank the b screw down. The Link effectively gives you a longer B screw. heres a stock Zee with a 11-42. plenty of room for more slack. Obviously with long cage it changes...but then you wouldn't need a link for a long cage to begin with. EDIT: literally all it does is it replaces the stock link on the derailleur and move s it just far enough so that the top jockey wheel does not contact the dish while shifting into it right at the top. Talking mm's. the difference between a 36T's chain length vs a 42T is something like 3 links Edited July 5, 2019 by morneS555 DJR and _freak_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted July 5, 2019 Share The new Shimano Ultegra rear derailleurs comes with a very flexible piece of cable housing which should work perfectly. I am not so sure about the 105 shifter working with the XT derailleur though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted July 5, 2019 Share The new Shimano Ultegra rear derailleurs comes with a very flexible piece of cable housing which should work perfectly. I am not so sure about the 105 shifter working with the XT derailleur though.I used this flexible housing on my road bike using an Ultegra derailleur with a 11-40t XT cassette. DJR and 100Tours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_freak_ Posted July 16, 2019 Share understoodthe 105 & XT both are 11spd and the pull ratio on the 105 & XT are the same, i checked this with LSB first... So...my "well known" local bike shop in Pretoria in Graham Rd, seem to have incompetent people working there…The XT derailer DOES NOT WORK on the 105 shifter as I was told…So I’ll have to go for the Wolftooth adaptor, Rapide is out of stock unfortunately… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100Tours Posted July 16, 2019 Share Very cool that 1x11. Needs an ovel front ring I used this flexible housing on my road bike using an Ultegra derailleur with a 11-40t XT cassette. Scott Addict 30_1.jpg PeterF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100Tours Posted July 16, 2019 Share FWIW I think you can make this work with what you've got. The cage on that XT deraileur is plenty long enough for the chain required and the XT should accommodate the big cassette without an issue. I run an 11-40 cassette with an ultegra derailleur and goattooth hanger extender and an 11-36 on a redrilled Di2 Ultegra derailleur without one. Those are roadie derailleurs, a MTB derailleur should fit a much bigger cassette. This is the redrilling idea - the further you move the hole the more B-screw tension you get. What happens when you put it all together? maybe if you let us know what's not working we can fix it. Edited July 16, 2019 by 100Tours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted July 16, 2019 Share Very cool that 1x11. Needs an ovel front ring That is an oval chainring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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