Gel Comparison Table

[Pornstar]

THis was taken off GU website and all i did was add in pepto pro whasp.

 

 

	Whasp PeptoGel	Roctane Ultra	GU Energy Gel	Powerbar gel	Clif Shot	Hammer Gel
	Vanilla	Vanilla Orange	Vanilla	Vanilla	Vanilla	Vanilla
Calories	126	100	100	110	100	90
Amino Acids	2370 mg	1200 mg	450 mg	0 mg	0 mg	45 mg
OKG	500 mg	450 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Total Carbs	25 mg	25 mg	25 mg	27 mg	25 mg	23 mg
Type Carbs	Maltodextrin, fructose, honey, glucose	Maltodextrin, fructose	Maltodextrin, fructose	Maltodextrin, fructose	Brown Rice Syrup	Maltodextrin, fruit juice dextrose.
Sugar	3 mg	5 mg	5 mg	10 mg	8 mg	2 mg
D-Ribose	150 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Protein	2000 mg	50 mg	50 mg	54 mg	50 mg	46 mg
Di-Peptides Tri-Peptides	1700 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
MCT	1000 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Sodium	150 mg	125 mg	55 mg	200 mg	40 mg	40 mg
Potassium	150 mg	55 mg	45 mg	20 mg	30 mg	0 mg
Caffeine	0 mg	35 mg	20 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Antioxidants	108% Vit C                 66% Vit E                Green Tea Extract	NONE	100% Vit C                 100% Vit E	NONE	NONE	NONE
Net WT	50 g	32 g	32 g	41 g	32 g	36 g

 

[Guest colonel]

I see your is 50g and does have more numbers in the categories but my question is is if you brought your packaging size down to 32g what will your figures look like compared to the rest?

 

[fandacious]

your table is a little wonky.. total carbs = 25mg? surely u mean 25gr?

[Thug]

If you normalise the Whasp to a 32g packet, the figures look like this....

 

 

	Whasp 32g
	Normalised
Calories	81
Amino Acids	1517 mg
OKG	320 mg
Total Carbs	16 mg
Type Carbs	Maltodextrin, fructose, honey, glucose
Sugar	2 mg
D-Ribose	96 mg
Protein	1280 mg
Di-Peptides Tri-Peptides	1088 mg
MCT	640 mg
Sodium	96 mg
Potassium	96 mg
Caffeine	0 mg
Antioxidants	108% Vit C                 66% Vit E                Green Tea Extract
Net WT	32 g

And yes Fand, carbs are probably gr's not mg's

 

 

[Pornstar]

yes, done late at night...thanks for that..

 

The point is that we aren't a 32g gel and if you are paying what you pay for your gels then the table is what you get.

 

We are bigger to not be so concentrated and have a more sustained flow of energy, so making a less of a spike.

 

We are half the price of roctane, have more ingrediants and incl pepto pro

 

[Johan Bornman]

yes' date=' done late at night...thanks for that..

The point is that we aren't a 32g gel and if you are paying what you pay for your gels then the table is what you get.

We are bigger to not be so concentrated and have a more sustained flow of energy, so making a less of a spike.

We are half the price of roctane, have more ingrediants and incl pepto pro
[/quote']

 

I think you're a bit disingenious there. How do you manage to get less of a spike with glucose and sucrose in there? Glucose is the ultimate spike substance and sucrose only one step away, worse than fructose.

 

 

And yes, honey is just sucrose with some added insect gob.

 

 

[PPWTF]

 

yes' date=' done late at night...thanks for that..

 

The point is that we aren't a 32g gel and if you are paying what you pay for your gels then the table is what you get.

 

We are bigger to not be so concentrated and have a more sustained flow of energy, so making a less of a spike.

 

We are half the price of roctane, have more ingrediants and incl pepto pro

[/quote']

 

I think you're a bit disingenious there. How do you manage to get less of a spike with glucose and sucrose in there? Glucose is the ultimate spike substance and sucrose only one step away, worse than fructose.

 

 

And yes, honey is just sucrose with some added insect gob.

 

 

 

Powerbar bought up / into research showing that the body could increase it's total uptake of sugars if the types where different - hence glucose and sucrose makes for a longer 'hit' and less of a spike. Can't find the link to the info right now but it is on the powerbar website, as is the source of the original reasearch; a sports scientist who worked for a pro tour cycle team at the time.

 

[Red Zone]

PPWTF surely if you combine diferent types of sugar to increase the uptake, you are boosting the spike not flattening it.

 

Also Powerbar "research"? I take any research done with marketing in mind with a pinch of salt

[Edition 507]

The important thing here is carbs per dosage, basicaly all you are really looking for is energy, the rest of the stuff is just sales and marketing gimmicks. As they all seem to have very much the same carb content, the next important thing is price per sachet. So Pornstar, add a price column so we can get an accurate picture.

[PPWTF]

 

 

found a link - not the original I'd read, but covering the same topic..... The twist is interesting

 

http://engage.powerbar.com/ca/NutritionResource/NutritionArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleId=FD2D5185-9C8B-4d3f-8FDE-E63375540438

 

"

Imagine the surprise when researchers fed trained cyclists a mixture

of glucose and fructose during prolonged, intense cycling in a

laboratory setting and found that the maximum oxidation rate for

ingested carbs was about 55% higher!⁵ Was this result a

mistake? If not, these findings suggest that if an endurance athlete

consumes the right blend of carbs while exercising, he or she can

dramatically boost the rate at which they absorb and therefore burn

carbs. This translates to more carbohydrate fuel being available during

extended exercise.

A Better Way to Burn

 

To be sure, researchers repeated their study ? this time using a

combination of glucose and sucrose (a mixture of glucose and fructose).

They theorized that the additional fructose, paired with glucose, would

again result in a higher maximum oxidation rate of ingested carbs in

cyclists. Sure enough, the oxidation rate was boosted by almost 20%.⁶

When glucose was supplied in the form of maltodextrin and paired with

fructose, a 40% boost in the burn rate of ingested carbs among cyclists

was seen.^7"

 

I was wrong in the point of the original post - because I couldn't remember the reason for the 2 types of sugar being significant! Hands up / my mistake!

 

http://www.powerbar.co.za/index.asp?goto=fetch&afid=5&pt=article&itemid=2231&typeid=1

 

............from the 3rd paragraph down - similar explanation

PPWTF2008-12-09 01:11:45

[Pornstar]

Our pepto pro gel is R18.99 RRP

Gu Roctane RRP is R34.95

Normal Gu is R15.95 RRP

Hammer is R16.95

Powerbar is R17.95

 

This was from a shop i called quickly, prices might vary a bit depending on shops and not sure if all shops have put price increase into effect yet.

 

Will get back to you on the carb story this arvie, just rushing out the door

 

[Johan Bornman]

The important thing here is carbs per dosage' date=' basicaly all you are really looking for is energy, the rest of the stuff is just sales and marketing gimmicks. cut cut cut .[/quote']

 

Yes and no. The type of carbs matter as well. A gram of glucose has a different effect from a gram of brown rice flour. Both are carbohydrates.

 

The GI (Glyceamic Index) simply gives you a reading as to how close to the pure glucose scale (rating 1) you are, whereas the Glyceamic Loading (GL) will tell you how much of what strength carbs you're hitting your body with.

 

For instance, a 2l bottle of Coke has a GI of (say) 0,8 but a GL of 800 units. If you drink half the bottle, only 400 units.

 

The only gel in this table that I assume would give you a low GL is the one made from rice syrup. But then again, I'm no expert on what's inside rice syrup.

 

[Pornstar]

Energy	630 kj
Protein	0.0g
Sodium Chloride	0.062g
Vitamin C	0.25g
Creatine Monohydrate	0.5g
Glycerine	5.0g
Fructose	8.6g
Maltodextrin Syrup	9.7g
Fat	0.0g
Sodium Citrate	0.25g
Potassium Citrate	0.25g
Citric Acid	0.5g
Apple Pectin	1.2g
Sucrose	8.6g
Dextrose Glucose	8.7g
Also Provides per serving
Potassium Sorbate	0.2g
Sodium Benzoate	0.1g
Permitted Flavouring	8.6g
Xanthine Gum	0.6g

 

 

 

Ingredients

[Pornstar]

That is Vooma info from usa website but remember its per 100mg and they are a 30g gel, you got to divide by 3.3

 

will add it to table now

 

 

[Pornstar]

 

	Whasp PeptoGel	Roctane Ultra	GU Energy Gel	Powerbar gel	Clif Shot	Hammer Gel	USN Voomer Gel
	Vanilla	Vanilla Orange	Vanilla	Vanilla	Vanilla	Vanilla	Vanilla
Calories	126	100	100	110	100	90	45
Amino Acids	2370 mg	1200 mg	450 mg	0 mg	0 mg	45 mg	0mg
OKG	500 mg	450 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Total Carbs	25g	25g	25g	27g	25g	23g	11g
Type Carbs	Maltodextrin, fructose, honey, glucose	Maltodextrin, fructose	Maltodextrin, fructose	Maltodextrin, fructose	Brown Rice Syrup	Maltodextrin, fruit juice dextrose.	Maltodextrin, sucrose, glucose dextrose.
Sugar	3 mg	5 mg	5 mg	10 mg	8 mg	2 mg
D-Ribose	150 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Protein	2000 mg	50 mg	50 mg	54 mg	50 mg	46 mg	0g
Di-Peptides Tri-Peptides	1700 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
MCT	1000 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Sodium	150 mg	125 mg	55 mg	200 mg	40 mg	40 mg	30mg
Potassium	150 mg	55 mg	45 mg	20 mg	30 mg	0 mg	60mg
Caffeine	0 mg	35 mg	20 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg	0 mg
Antioxidants	108% Vit C                 66% Vit E                Green Tea Extract	NONE	100% Vit C                 100% Vit E	NONE	NONE	NONE	NONE
Net WT	50 g	32 g	32 g	41 g	32 g	36 g	30g

[Pornstar]

ok, added vooma onto list in its serving size 30g as well.

 

Just check the info i might not have it it 100% correct as website didnt give info about anti oxidants or anything like that

 

Vooma retails R8.99 RRP at most shops but check info on list