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Jeezlaaik - maar julle is rof met die bek!!!Evil%20Smile

This is better than "KYKNET" !LOL

 

One thing I AM confused about,  how would we attract youngsters to the sport (gals & lads; black & white) if we do not respect equal oppertunities?

 

...and should it not start a club level?  How many clubs are really supporting vets woman racing?  I only know of MTN Club100 (and no I am not a member).

 

I don't really think it is only about the money but about the recognition as well, maybe then more vets ladies will attend races?

 

and VETS LADIES - you ROCK.  Love seeing you on the road/track/bush/etc.Thumbs%20Up

 

 

Ok Turtlek or should I address you by the pet name I have for you. You feel hard done by the comment I made. What gives you the right to dish it out. See the opening comments you made. As for you being a long time hubber    since 17 April 2008 hahaha.

Licensed cycling in the country is for all age categories. That is why ladies do take out racing licenses and use them to race.

 

Organisers of Classics undertake to pay ex amount of price money according to the status of the race. The number of entrants per category does not matter as the race attracts sponsorships and a lot of fun riders who contributes towards paying for the costs of the race.

 

A classic is meant to afford all licensed cyclists the opportunity to compete and be rewarded irrespective of their age or sex. Discrimantion especially in sport is against our constitution.

 

See road running and the prizes they pay.

 

Classics are not only about elites 65 men and 15 woman entering. What TV Coverage to they attract. 3 Minutes on Supercycling.

 

For your info I am not bitter about anything.

 

I do find it amusing that you have snotty coments on a lot of topics on this forum.

 

There is of course by the look of things a number of other half brainers who think their childish comments on most topics are funny.

 

By the way are you not done with this topic?
FOURFEET2009-01-04 11:18:48

so being childish and immature about someones alias is a definite cause for me to be offended seeing as you hide behind two of them!!! i have nothing to hide dude and seriously you should really not take things so seriously you dont get out alive anyways!!! its a bloody internet forum for goodness sakes you post three topics about the same thing just worded differently to get your post count up from 8 posts to 11 posts wow good job on that one.. also i never said i was a long time hubber that was said by someone else but i do actually have a bit more posts than 11 as you can see

 

 

 

and just for your info i did not just go and buy my license because i would start earlier i worked my ass off to get to where i am

 

 

 

and about snotty comments you clearly dont realise what a sense of humour is because everyone on the hub has one and you seem to be the one with the chip on your shoulder by not agreeing with my views

 

 

 

and your generalisation about half brainers clearly makes me think about a certain thing called assumption now not only have you insulted me but you insulted other hubbers by your comments by implying that we are a bunch of half brainers

 

 

 

so with me making "snotty" comments and you coming onto a forum and putting up some controversial topics like this are you any better than me???? i think not especially seeing as you are clearly just another person with a chip on his shoulder because you have an inferiority complex (hence why you are using two alias's)

 

 

 

for your info i am not bitter either i just think that i do have freedom of speech and while i am done with you this topic makes for interesting reading

 

 

 

oh yes fourfeet just so you can go check here are the links

 

 

 

http://www.winningtime.co.za/lookups/GetResults.asp?Post=true&RiderID=196857

 

 

 

http://results.championchip.co.za/results/index.php?File=results_details.php&DataID=1258&ChipCode=VX3HRMT&DB=za&Master=1&LinkChip=

Dam dis nice om die souties te sien stry oor nonsens...

 

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...thanx for popcorn topic turlek

 

 

 

Anytime Witrot sometimes i need to vent a little bit of frustration just like anybody else!!!

 

 

 

too bad it seems that people carry on and on about things that i decided to end on the first page!!!

 

 

 

P.S. ons souties mos leer van julle Afrikaanse mense smiley2.gif

My 2c...

Pay the Elite Mens and Womens only.

Recognition is nice and all but if you're going to pay Vets Ladies then you have to pay U23, Juniors, U16, U14, U10, Vets 30-35, Vets 35-40, Vets, 40-45, tandems (all age categories), single speeds, mountain bikes blah blah - you see where I'm going with this.

By all means publish the results somewhere - Bicycling website, CSA website etc to give everyone recognition but I for one don't want to sit through a 2 hour awards ceremony where the clapping gets strained after the 47th medal and R100 prize envelope gets dished out and photo taken.

Popcorn anyone????????

 

 


No need Oiltrash i am done i am going out to ride my bike again i dont need to waste my time with an immature alias!!

 

Turtlek, I've wondered whether your bunny is jiving or boxing, but I now think the latter?LOL

No jokes though, I agree with what you say - there is a bigger picture.

Ok Turdie

 

You keep missing the point. The post is not about you or how well you hang onto the back of the bunch. It is about a lot of licensed cyclists not being catered for.

 

For having an inferior complex I think it is a title belonging to you. As for insulting other Hubbers why does eveyone that posts on this forum have to be ripped of. Very mature play time I would say.

 

For you being immature you just cannot walk away from this topic. Why would I want to check your results. You are nothing more than a glorified wheelsucker. You always hang on to the back of the bunch.

 

Maybe you should stick to figure skating.

 

Remember the topic is about vets ladies only nothing else, Turdie

FOURFEET2009-01-05 01:07:11

Ok Turdie

 

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You keep missing the point. The post is not about you or how well you hang onto the back of the bunch. It is about a lot of licensed cyclists not being catered for.

 

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For having an inferior complex I think it is a title belonging to you. As for insulting other Hubbers why does eveyone that posts on this forum have to be ripped of. Very mature play time I would say.

 

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For you being immature you just cannot walk away from this topic. Why would I want to check your results. You are nothing more than a glorified wheelsucker. You always hang on to the back of the bunch.

 

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Maybe you should stick to figure skating.

 

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Remember the topic is about vets ladies only nothing else' date=' Turdie

 

 

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i am not missing the point i never said you were wrong about the licensed riders not being catered for and at least i actually have motivation to get better instead of whinging on a forum about things that could be rectified with people that are involved

 

 

 

did i not say that you do have a valid point and also named the three people that i could think of at the time

 

 

 

also i did correct myself and add my compliments to the two riders you added who are perfoming on the greatest stage they can!

 

 

 

as for insults you the one doing name calling!!!

 

 

 

and about being a glorified wheel sucker at least i can stick on that wheel!!

 

 

 

and maybe you should try come figure skate i will gladly organise for you!!

 

 

 

P.S. it started off as a vets ladies thread but you turned it into a mud slinging thread by calling me a name that was completely uncalled for.

 

 

 

now seriously George or fourfeet whichever you would like to be called my only advice to you is go have a chat to those race organisers and fight for the cause that you have such strong feelings about and i am sure they will either help you out or give you an answer that will be twisted in loops more than anybody can comprehend either way at least you would have tried to get a better race prize for the ladies

 

 

 

good luck and best regards to you!!!

I would imagine once we move past the anger and defensiveness that women have as much right to be compensated (and equally) as men. The problem might be that if you want to do it for money, you should do it as a job. Then become a pro. A lot of the pressure for vets prizemoney comes from vets who need the income to suport their lifestyle of being nothing more than cyclists. Consumer stats tell us that the growth in female expenditure on sports equipment and sporting activity has been 4 times greater in the last 2 years than men!! No doubt more women's prizemoney would attract more women cyclists. Chicken/egg??

And Turtlek - you seem to think cyclists from the 60's can't stand comparison with the modern breed of wimps?? Don't worry - that's just your lack of 'experience' speaking. FYI the fastest average speed for Paris-Roubaix was set early in the 60'. On steel bikes, with rain, hail, mud and the rest.Wink

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