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Both the Park Big Blue book of bicycling Repair as well as Barnetts say that oil must be used as the lubricant for a freehub. I have also read that grease can be used.

 

What lubricant is the correct one????? It is for a freehub on a Mount/Chosen Tandem hub.
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Wow it seems that there is no real firm rule for this important part of our bicycles......

 

I have been advised by The Thug to use Vaseline or KY Jelly, Park and Barnetts say oil, search on the Internet says Phil Wood's Tenacious oil, other say light weight motor oil, other say grease, but most warn against grease.

 

Sheldon Brown says oil, they do warn against 3 in 1 oil as it gums up over time. Other say motor oil 30W10.

 

It seems that oil it will be.
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Hendrik, you can use either oil or grease. The only difference is the sound it makes. Campag wheels leave the factory with thin oil and make a racket. Once they've been greased, they shut up.

It doesn't matter since there is no wear parts in there. The two hard steel parts - pawl and ratched that mover over each other don't do so under load and even naked steel will not wear itself out, but will rust. The oil only keeps rust at bay.

Campag hubs with grease ports purge the grease on the rear hub's right hand side right into the pawls, hence they shut up when you grease the hub.

Use whatever you like. Even 3-in-one. Just clean it when it gums up.

 

 

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Hendrik' date=' you can use either oil or grease. The only difference is the sound it makes. Campag wheels leave the factory with thin oil and make a racket. Once they've been greased, they shut up.

It doesn't matter since there is no wear parts in there. The two hard steel parts - pawl and ratched that mover over each other don't do so under load and even naked steel will not wear itself out, but will rust. The oil only keeps rust at bay.

Campag hubs with grease ports purge the grease on the rear hub's right hand side right into the pawls, hence they shut up when you grease the hub.

Use whatever you like. Even 3-in-one. Just clean it when it gums up. 

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Thanx Johan, the freehub in question is still on the tandem. The freehub screws onto the hub body and is secured by a nut from the inside. It is not a allen type nut and more likely a torx type nut. I could not remove it but I could dribble oil into the freehub. The hub is now running smoothly. I will get a tool to remove it from the hub and then clean and oil properly.
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Thanx Johan' date=' the freehub in question is still on the tandem. The freehub screws onto the hub body and is secured by a nut from the inside. It is not a allen type nut and more likely a torx type nut. I could not remove it but I could dribble oil into the freehub. The hub is now running smoothly. I will get a tool to remove it from the hub and then clean and oil properly.
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Hendrik, sorry for the late reply. For some reason I don't get e-mail notification of activity on threads anymore.

 

Anyway, I assumed it is a freehub you could dismantle. Clearly you are not able to get grease into that one. It's a sealed unit and taking it apart is futile. Hundreds of little rusty bearings and lots of boing boing springs.

 

They're cheap. Get a new one when that one starts to refuse to engage. It will drop you in trouble far from home.

 

It does come off with an allen key. Even though it looks like a torx type fixture it is either an 8 or 10mm allen key, depending on the type. Shimano is 8mm.  Shove an allen key in there and make  big lever from a pipe or such.

 

 
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Thanx Johan' date=' the freehub in question is still on the tandem. The freehub screws onto the hub body and is secured by a nut from the inside. It is not a allen type nut and more likely a torx type nut. I could not remove it but I could dribble oil into the freehub. The hub is now running smoothly. I will get a tool to remove it from the hub and then clean and oil properly.
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  For some reason I don't get e-mail notification of activity on threads anymore.

 

 

hihi, I have an idea why this could be the case...LOL

 

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Thanx Johan' date=' the freehub in question is still on the tandem. The freehub screws onto the hub body and is secured by a nut from the inside. It is not a allen type nut and more likely a torx type nut. I could not remove it but I could dribble oil into the freehub. The hub is now running smoothly. I will get a tool to remove it from the hub and then clean and oil properly.
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  For some reason I don't get e-mail notification of activity on threads anymore.

 


hihi, I have an idea why this could be the case...LOL

 

Do tell.
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you can use either oil or grease. The only difference is the sound it makes.

 

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not necessarily the case...

 

grease, being thicker, will result in some freewheels dragging as you freewheel at higher speeds. the mavic wheels are particularly prone to this.

 

 

 

you need something thicker than chain oil and thinner than grease. mixing the 2 to until you reach an optimum consistency works well.

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Guest Big H
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I got a spraycan with white lithium grease in RSA...... it comes with a plastic piepie and it works well to inject the grease into the freehub. Let it stand on its head overnight and all excess grease will drain away.

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Finish line Green cap' date=' wet lube!!

Solves any problem you might have in ye'r life!!!
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I've used finish line wet lube in my Cane Creek freebody before, didn't really last long. Now I go down to the lbs and use fork grease. Manitou calls it something prep I think. You used to be able to inject it directly into the Manitou's fork bushings via the micro lube ports. That stuff works the bomb!

 

Oom H, ek het al gehoor van mense wat ouerige freebodies in grease gekook het. As die freebody nie oopgemaak kan word nie, het hulle die grease gekook tot dit lekker loperig geword het, en dan die freebody daarin gesit. Blykbaar het die grease dan orals ingeloop en het die freebody weer gepurrrrrr. Ek wil net klem le daarop dat ek dit gehoor het, en nie seker hoe akkuraat die oorvertelling was nie, en of dit nie maar net nog 'n storie is nie...

 

Guest Big H
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Finish line Green cap' date=' wet lube!!

Solves any problem you might have in ye'r life!!!
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I've used finish line wet lube in my Cane Creek freebody before, didn't really last long. Now I go down to the lbs and use fork grease. Manitou calls it something prep I think. You used to be able to inject it directly into the Manitou's fork bushings via the micro lube ports. That stuff works the bomb!

Oom H, ek het al gehoor van mense wat ouerige freebodies in grease gekook het. As die freebody nie oopgemaak kan word nie, het hulle die grease gekook tot dit lekker loperig geword het, en dan die freebody daarin gesit. Blykbaar het die grease dan orals ingeloop en het die freebody weer gepurrrrrr. Ek wil net klem le daarop dat ek dit gehoor het, en nie seker hoe akkuraat die oorvertelling was nie, en of dit nie maar net nog 'n storie is nie...

 

Baie jare terug....... toe die wereld nog jonk was...... het ek 'n scrambler gehad. Ek het gereeld die ketting afgehaal en dit in gesmelte ghries gesit. Of dit werklik gehelp het weet ek nie maar die bike het sommer lekkerder geloop na die tyd!!!!!!!

 

Ek is seker die gesmelte ghries sal werk....... dit is net hel morsig en dit stink. Dit is net aan te bevele vir bachelors wat op hulle eie woon!!!!!!!
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I got a spraycan with white lithium grease in RSA...... it comes with a plastic piepie and it works well to inject the grease into the freehub. Let it stand on its head overnight and all excess grease will drain away.

 

What an excellent idea. I also have a can of the stuff, purchased mistakenly. I though it was silicone lubricant. It will penetrate and then become thick too.

 

Nice tip.
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yesI use the Motorex Grease spray. It works very well.

 

Any low consistency grease will also work, the sortof stuff they use onboard lubrication systems on trucks. This is typically a 000 consistency grease which uses a viscous oil and light thickener. Havoline (caltex) makes some good stuff as does Shell. Petro Canada has some excellent food grease grease available that weill also work som when you hungry just eat your freewheel.

 

Just look for 000 (triple zero) consistency

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