KDEE Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 TNT' date=' of course not.. I might be in the minority here, but I will wait behind the 5 abreast groups without trying to drive them into the gutter, but the bad language born of frustration should not suprise them... Other motorists, it appears are not that interested in waiting and then swearing... and thats where Porky's post comes in.... Why ride 5 abreast and piss of all and sundry when there is an alternative?Is it because they can....? [/quote'] In my estimation, its because they are the same arrogant bunch who when they get in their car will drive over their own family if it helps them win the race to the next robot, and to prove that they are in the right. Arrogant c*nts don't change, whatever their mode of transport. Its still doesn't make sense to advocate killing them with your car, as has been mooted both on Car's website, and, shockingly, on this thread. And very quicly we find common ground. Agree 100% with above..
TNT1 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 And very quicly we find common ground. Agree 100% with above.. I know. It's my brilliant logic and skill with words...
porky Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Doesn't really matter if the cyclists are in single-file or not. What matters is if you attempt to murder them (and on occasion actually succeed) in proving you are right. Whoopee. You get to be right' date=' and some poor women gets to be a widow. Nice. [/quote'] Ag please TNT.!! Get with the programme, no driver gets in his or her car and says I will MURDER a cyclist today - stop been so melodramatic.!! ............and lets cut the bleeding heart widow bit as well, - lets stick to facts - Its PLAIN wrong to ride 4/5 abreast and expect motorists to meekly drive behind you - you have alternatives - finished, there is no argument! Trucks and other heavy duty vehicles take up the road due to their size,- they have no other alternative - thats it, finished, theres no argument.! As I said in another post - look after your own safety, if the bunch you are in is acting in a way which is endangering your safety, - stop riding with them.!
Daniel XTR Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 We are in a sense our own worst enemies. The 5 abreast crew know who they are. of all the cyclists who have been killed, not one of them was travelling 5 abreast, infact they from what has been said, they were either solo or 2 or 3.
jmaccelari Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 My tuppence: Yes, I agree to an extent. There are some cyclists better removed from the gene pool. I like to think they are the minority, but they make life difficult for the rest of us. However, I have nothing by sympathy for decent cyclists who get injured/killed by pig drivers who deserve themselves to be removed... Always two sides...
Shebeen Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I smell a 30 pager here (or there). They've found it on warthogs already, just wait till it gets linked here. Funny thing is some of them are cyclists too. I do like the way they put their ride in their signature. some even put their old cars and their wife's car. The one moderator puts his 323 in too.
TNT1 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 [ Ag please TNT.!! Get with the programme' date= no driver gets in his or her car and says I will MURDER a cyclist today - stop been so melodramatic.!! Its PLAIN wrong to ride 4/5 abreast and expect motorists to meekly drive behind you - you have alternatives - finished, there is no argument! Trucks and other heavy duty vehicles take up the road due to their size,- they have no other alternative - thats it, finished, theres no argument.! [/quote] I don't condone cyclists abusing the road and riding in an illegal manner. But I do think that for a motorist, when confronted with this situation to "pass" the cyclist in such a way that the cyclist is injured is tantamount to murder (attempted or otherwise). To suggest that motorists have can't be expected to wait till it is safe to pass the cyclists, is ludicrous. That's an arrogant, superior attitude, which shows quite plainly the disregard for morals that is endemic in this country. Just because you may be legally in the right, doesn't automatically make your actions right.
Daniel XTR Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 2 that i can see are memebrs of this forum too.
TNT1 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 2 that i can see are memebrs of this forum too. What 2 from that sh1tty car site? Well there goes my memebership and posting rights to their cr@p down the sh!tter...
porky Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 We are in a sense our own worst enemies. The 5 abreast crew know who they are. of all the cyclists who have been killed' date=' not one of them was travelling 5 abreast, infact they from what has been said, they were either solo or 2 or 3. [/quote'] I agree we are our own worst enemies and that gos for runners and cyclists as I partake in both. The 5 abreast scenario was more to show the differance between drivers sitting behind a truck or a bunch of cyclists Daniel, you may be right on the statistics, but riding 5 abreast as I was alluding to is still wrong. From what I read on the car site, there are heavy road works on the road which causes congestion, congestion causes aggrevation, and that causes accidents - sad as it is, this was an accident, it was not murder as some like to dramatise. We can ask, "Should he have been there just because he had a right to"?? I have a right to walk in Hillbrow with a cell phone and a pocketfull of money at 2am,..........but should I?? The answer is of course NO. So, should we tempt fate, should we take the risks and then cry foul afterwards, I say NO, everybody has that little voice in their minds, when it says "get the hell out" listen carefully and live to ride / fight another day. porky2009-02-16 05:17:47
RockCoach Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 2 that i can see are memebrs of this forum too.At least one more than that
Slowbee Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 bits edited out Just because you may be legally in the right' date=' doesn't automatically make your actions right.[/quote'] and that right there is the crux of most matters on our little celestial orb!!
Daniel XTR Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 2 that i can see are memebrs of this forum too.What 2 from that sh1tty car site? Well there goes my memebership and posting rights to their cr@p down the sh!tter... Yup
TNT1 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 bits edited out Just because you may be legally in the right' date=' doesn't automatically make your actions right.[/quote'] and that right there is the crux of most matters on our little celestial orb!! Yeah, but don't tell Porky and co when they get behind the wheel...
Daniel XTR Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 2 that i can see are memebrs of this forum too.At least one more than that nah, just read there from time to (lurk a bit) too much brand wh0rism and immaturity,there if you think the shimano vs sram deabte is tired cant look at the amg vs m debate.
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