duckcoza Posted December 17, 2009 Share There seem to be numerous hardtail mnt bikes 4sale in the second hand section for around R10000 . All with similar part sets ??Yet you can buy a Silverback Sierra brand new full XT with rockshox Recon for just over R10000 if you talk nicely to your LBS . They are listed at R11600 full retail , less 10%??Have prices come down ??? Surely a secondhand bike is worth less ?? Or am I missing something ?? Are the Ally frames that different ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummibear Posted December 17, 2009 Share It's not just the frame it's the fork,wheels, brakes,tyres and all the rest to. Carbon is lighter than Alu but i personally don't like it to much.Maybe i am just old skool but i like the ride of steel and aluminium frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtbN00b Posted December 17, 2009 Share carbon is for roadies .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasping Posted December 17, 2009 Share carbon is for roadies .... Some Roadies. There are some of us who know what to do with our money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtbN00b Posted December 17, 2009 Share carbon is for roadies .... Some Roadies. There are some of us who know what to do with our money.... like taking certain men for a time of pleasure and call it business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofie Posted December 17, 2009 Share carbon is for roadies .... Some Roadies. There are some of us who know what to do with our money.... I agree, I am happy with my mostly aluminium RC9000.The plastic bits are the pieces that cause me to worry the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted December 17, 2009 Share Jumped, dropped, railed & bermed my Carbon Mojo on every single ride and didn't have a single issue. My buddy broke a rear tri on Alu bike though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reghard111 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Carbon is a nice to have.....its BLOODY NICE TO HAVE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffro Posted December 18, 2009 Share OK lets not get into the "carbon vs alu" discussion guys and give the man advice.True that there are many pieces of equipment that make up the price/value of a bike. It really depends on what you need and at what level you are riding.Remember your LEGS do the talking above all.I'v done fairly ok in some small mtb races with my 2001 Schwinn Moab with V brakes.Spend as much as yout pocket comfortably permits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasping Posted December 18, 2009 Share Geoffro (Tull?), you are correct. Here is my advice - buy what you are comfortable spending. My comment is always the same (bear with me for the Roadie analogy). I would rather be riding a Raleigh and pass a guy on a Pinarello than be the guy on the Pinarello. Ask Lance (not a fan, but anyway) - it is not about the bike. Now for my comment about second hand bike prices - DO YOUR RESEARCH! It is your money (or daddy's ) so watch out. Not all Hubbers have scruples (some got vaccinated!) Any seller wants to charge as much as possible and any buyer wants to pay as little as possible. WindblownPE also has a valid point. My bike originally came out with 105 but when I got it it had Ultegra on. Big difference in functional spec and price. Look at the package that is being offered not just the name of the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge_Design Posted December 18, 2009 Share To be honest, a 2nd hand bike for R10k should have a better fork than a Recon, and as mentioned above, the wheels/saddle/handlebars etc. can make a huge difference to the value of the bike... the new bike will probably be more reliable and cost less initially to maintain, but the used bike should be a better spec (if it isn't then don't pay R10k for it!). It depends on what you're looking to use it for, if it's just for fun I'd say buy the new bike as you then know exactly how it's been maintained. If you're looking to race then used might be better for the higher spec... And about that LA story, can someone please tell me how much it would cost to ride the same bike he rides and at the same time say it's not about the bike! The bike makes a big difference (I mean in terms of comparing a R10k bike to a R30k bike, not so much for only slightly better bikes - it's all about getting the balance across all the components). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasping Posted December 18, 2009 Share Shanun231, it is not about the bike for me. I am no racing snake - for of a plodding hippo. When you get into the rarefied atmosphere that these guys operate in, then I am sure there is something to it. Conversely, would you back yourself if you and Lance swapped bikes for a friendly little race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasping Posted December 18, 2009 Share And about that LA story' date=' can someone please tell me how much it would cost to ride the same bike he rides and at the same time say it's not about the bike! [/quote'] I seem to remember that Bicycling had an article on Lance's Trek before the last Tour de France and they estimated the cost at R98k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefox Posted December 18, 2009 Share Agreed Gasping, Comfort goes a long way to an enjoyabe ride. Components can always be upgraded and I guess thats where the additional cost comes in to it.firefox2009-12-18 03:46:22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davem Posted December 18, 2009 Share I would rather be riding a Raleigh and pass a guy on a Pinarello than be the guy on the Pinarello.I do get a kick out of passing the Cervelo's etc on my little Toyota Corolla (Raleigh RC3000). When I get 30 grand legs, then I'll get a 30 grand bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasping Posted December 18, 2009 Share When I get 30 grand legs' date=' then I'll get a 30 grand bike.[/quote'] Absolutely. Unless of course I win big on Tata ma Chance. Then I too will give you joy as you pass me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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