Spat Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I just checked and noticed that the One Tonner results were up and included for seeding on the PPA website, the winners time has been adjusted by 19 minutes the winning time for the 1 tonner (even if it is adjusted !) is 3h42min ? When on RACTec it is 4h00m58sec. This sucks as effectively did very little for me now in terms of seeding. Anyone else also have the same???
Tankman Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 you broke their site now cause everyone wants to log in!
niklasvm Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 the adjusted winner's time is just an element of the seeding calculation, it is adjusted consistently using the same algorithm so everyone is affected equally.
Woofie Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) On 10/28/2010 at 1:22 PM, niklasvm said: the adjusted winner's time is just an element of the seeding calculation, it is adjusted consistently using the same algorithm so everyone is affected equally.mmm....Well if I was Anton I really wouldnt be happy with like a C seeding or something for winning that one....But hey... Maybe 40km/h isnt fast enough for 4 hours.... Edited October 28, 2010 by Woofie
niklasvm Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 On 10/28/2010 at 1:25 PM, andydude said: My One Tonner lifted me from D to C!me too...... with a little extra help from the west coast express
DMC007 Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Even Racetec is down.....I thought the seeding is only taking place next Wednesday!!
andydude Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Well we're always crapping on PPA so we should see this as a positive and not just always complain!
headhunter Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 The 3h42 winning time on PPA website may just be an entry error, as I see the winning time for West Coast is the same 1h56m08s , maybe ?
Woofie Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 On 10/28/2010 at 1:49 PM, andydude said: Well we're always crapping on PPA so we should see this as a positive and not just always complain! Cool. Lets all be happy that our seedings are dropping.....
Spat Posted October 28, 2010 Author Posted October 28, 2010 Please, please please let it be a mistake when they did the entry
Bram_on_Madone Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 On 10/28/2010 at 1:22 PM, niklasvm said: the adjusted winner's time is just an element of the seeding calculation, it is adjusted consistently using the same algorithm so everyone is affected equally. The algorithm is still weird though - I got better indeces for random races I rode last year where I started in M and was pretty unfit than for the Westcoast and Engen races where I came top 10 in my bunch (H). For example, in the Westcoast I got a better time than anybody in the preceding bunch, came 4th in my group (2s off the winner) and still only got an H equivalent index. This means that for some races its effectively impossible to improve your seeding. Fortunately I did decent One Tonner and can move up to F
Tankman Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 On 10/28/2010 at 1:55 PM, Woofie said: Cool. Lets all be happy that our seedings are dropping..... Says the Woosie, Chickening out on the morning of the race!
stratus5 Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 They seem to have used a delta of 0.6 for the WCExpress. I.e they considered it a very easy race They seeding seems to be calculated as follows ... Winners time = 1:56 = 116 minutesIf you did a 2:14 (Winner of H group?) = 134 minutesThen your seeding is (134/116 - 1) * 100 / 0.6 = 25 (H group is 23 - 26.5) 0.6 is seriously harsh! The moment there are hills, then the delta get closer to 1 or even over 1 for the roller coaster etc?This is pure discrimination against the bigger guys who pull the pelatons between hills.
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