zabel Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I have been licensed with CSA (SACF) since 1989. I just renewed my 2011 affiliation at a whopping R425, which I think is a bit ridiculous. Cycling South Africa I hope you do something productive with my contribution!!!
mtbgirlz Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 What a rip, I was told I needed a CSA licence R75, cool I registered and applied mysteriously a "provincial affilication" of R75 was added to my cart, can't be removed from cart and no information as to what it is for??? So your CSA licence is not R75 it actually is R150!
Ysterman Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 What a rip, I was told I needed a CSA licence R75, cool I registered and applied mysteriously a "provincial affilication" of R75 was added to my cart, can't be removed from cart and no information as to what it is for??? So your CSA licence is not R75 it actually is R150! The "provincial affiliation" can be removed. But, you need to be a member of a club when you buy a CSA license. I paid Club Fees = R100 So not sure, but perhaps the "provincial affiliation" is in place of a club membership, so you don’t have to join a club now. But me thinks better to pay R100 for club membership than to CSA
mtbgirlz Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Well the system is flawed because when you enter your registration details they ask if you belong to a club so the system should have picked it up The "provincial affiliation" can be removed. But, you need to be a member of a club when you buy a CSA license. I paid Club Fees = R100 So not sure, but perhaps the "provincial affiliation" is in place of a club membership, so you don’t have to join a club now. But me thinks better to pay R100 for club membership than to CSA Edited January 13, 2011 by mtbgirlz
riaanb Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 As I understand it you have no option but to pay all 3: Club +- R50 to R450Provincial - R75National CSA - R75
Minion Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 The provincial affiliation is a fee that all Club cyclists have to pay to Central Gauteng Cycling (CGC). It has been in place for at least the last 4 years now. In the past, the clubs collected the fee on behalf of CGC and paid it to them. Now, with the new CSA system, it is possible to collect the fee directly from cyclists when they apply for CSA membership. This is CGC's preferred method of collecting the fee. There are still situations where the clubs need to collect the R75 CGC affiliation fee on CGC's behalf:1.) Club members who are not CSA members.2.) Club members who are unable to carry out the CSA registration process themselves (e.g. no internet).3.) Club members who paid for CSA membership with their Argus entries. At the time, the CSA system didn't charge for CGC affiliation, so these people still need to pay the R75 to their club. If you are a cyclist living in the CGC area and belong to a club (including ROAG), the CGC affiliation fee is complusory. Our club (Cresta Wheelers) no longer includes the CGC fee in our annual membership fee (effectively reducing it by R75). Your club should have done the same, or at least notified you that their fee still includes CGC affiliation.
Minion Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 So not sure, but perhaps the "provincial affiliation" is in place of a club membership, so you don’t have to join a club now. But me thinks better to pay R100 for club membership than to CSAJust to clarify: Provincial affiliation used to be included in club membership (IIRC, the normally free ROAG membership was R75 for Gauteng because of this), it is not in place of club membership. You do still need to join a club.
mtbgirlz Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks for explanation. I remember paying that R75 to the club when I joined, I'll contact them for the refund as I couldn't see a way of excluding the amount when I paid CSA. The provincial affiliation is a fee that all Club cyclists have to pay to Central Gauteng Cycling (CGC). It has been in place for at least the last 4 years now. In the past, the clubs collected the fee on behalf of CGC and paid it to them. Now, with the new CSA system, it is possible to collect the fee directly from cyclists when they apply for CSA membership. This is CGC's preferred method of collecting the fee. There are still situations where the clubs need to collect the R75 CGC affiliation fee on CGC's behalf:1.) Club members who are not CSA members.2.) Club members who are unable to carry out the CSA registration process themselves (e.g. no internet).3.) Club members who paid for CSA membership with their Argus entries. At the time, the CSA system didn't charge for CGC affiliation, so these people still need to pay the R75 to their club. If you are a cyclist living in the CGC area and belong to a club (including ROAG), the CGC affiliation fee is complusory. Our club (Cresta Wheelers) no longer includes the CGC fee in our annual membership fee (effectively reducing it by R75). Your club should have done the same, or at least notified you that their fee still includes CGC affiliation.
Minion Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 As I understand it you have no option but to pay all 3: Club +- R50 to R450Provincial - R75National CSA - R75Correct, with some comments: Club +- R50 to R450 - theoretically should be reduced (depending on province) since it no longer has to include provincial affiliation feesProvincial - R75 - depends on the province where you live.National CSA - R75 - you do not have to pay this, but if you will do more than two CSA-affiliated races this year, it will be cheaper than buying day licences for each one.
Stretch Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Just to clarify: Provincial affiliation used to be included in club membership (IIRC, the normally free ROAG membership was R75 for Gauteng because of this), it is not in place of club membership. You do still need to join a club.there was an issue with roag and the cgc fee last year - i.e. roag did not collect it - i think that is one of the reasons why the prov affiliation is now purchased while buying the csa membership. Prov affiliation fees vary from province to province Central Gauteng - R75 (primary reason for this is because they have so few events in their area of jurisdiction - as far as i am aware)KZN - R35 (reason - who knows - there are one or two events every weekend for most of the year)other provinces - R0 (might be wrong about this)
SteveS Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I took out my CSA liscence last week and it cost R200 (R50 ROAG, R75 Central Qauteng, R75 CSA). That is R16.66 per month. I cannot believe that people can moan so much about paying R 200 per year for the privilage of racing and having a Cycling Federation taking care of Cycling in South Africa. I used to Canoe actively and out of interest went to see how much its cost to be able to take part in canoeing races. The annual provincial and national fee is R 550 per year, excluding your club membership. I will most likely get slated for this by people saying what are they getting for the R200 etc, etc. Maybe if we paid more they would be able to do more, he says grabbing his hat and running out the room.
scotty Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Sunward Wheelers (East rand) club subs are still very reasonable Edited January 13, 2011 by scotty
Ysterman Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 ok ... when I applied and paid online @ CSA, I didnt pay the R75, nor did I pay that to the club - so I guess somebody is gonna ask me soon to pay that outstanding R75 ...
Oltremo Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I took out my CSA liscence last week and it cost R200 (R50 ROAG, R75 Central Qauteng, R75 CSA). That is R16.66 per month. I cannot believe that people can moan so much about paying R 200 per year for the privilage of racing and having a Cycling Federation taking care of Cycling in South Africa. I used to Canoe actively and out of interest went to see how much its cost to be able to take part in canoeing races. The annual provincial and national fee is R 550 per year, excluding your club membership. I will most likely get slated for this by people saying what are they getting for the R200 etc, etc. Maybe if we paid more they would be able to do more, he says grabbing his hat and running out the room.Wait for me, Don't slam the door, I am going with you
Caerus Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Am I supposed to take and get my card printed myself? Who does the extra R35 go to, and what for? Edited January 13, 2011 by Caerus
Stretch Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Am I supposed to take and get my card printed myself? Who does the extra R35 go to, and what for?i printed mine and laminated it. you hardly ever need to present the thing anyway
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