jack3d

[firewolf]

Anybody out there heard of a product called Jack3d? Have you tried it as a pre or during workout fuel, and is it any good?

[Spark]

I use it before hard workouts. The way it makes you feel let me think its hardly legal

[jannosmit]

have also used it once, makes you feel like a machine for the whole day. some potent stuff that

[Mads]

Don't know whether cycling and rugby falls in the same category, but read this article.

 

 

Jack 3d

Edited January 30, 2011 by Mads

[Raflos]

used it before gives you power like ilegal stuff but later you just crash into depression

[firewolf]

I believe it is on the WADA zero tolerance list. Methyhexaneamine. Google'd it and it comes up as less CNS stimulant that methamphetimine.

Also states tha use should be cycled to prevent toxic build up and/or addiction. Also used as "safe party drub" in New Zealand. Authorities considering to make it a controlled substance for general population. (ie non sports people).

Presently its a Over The Counter (OTC) product. Which is fine for non professional sportsman.

Here's the thing ... I tried some yesterday and could feel the surge in energy levels. It's got potential for some explosive power on the bike. BUT.... is it legal for guys at my level? Would use be more of a moral dilemma than a risk of a ban for breaching professional codes of ethics?

And is it worth it in terms of health issues?

 

Very similar effects to a USN product Nitric Oxide.

Any comments?

[firewolf]

@raflos. how many doses/days/months use lead to depression? Are you referring to an acute post upper crash?

How large was that dose? And are you sensitive to other products like for example caffeine?

[doris]

coooolllll where can you buy it

[firewolf]

Got a sample from a guy at work.

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Here's the thing ... I tried some yesterday and could feel the surge in energy levels. It's got potential for some explosive power on the bike. BUT.... is it legal for guys at my level? Would use be more of a moral dilemma than a risk of a ban for breaching professional codes of ethics?

And is it worth it in terms of health issues?

 

Very similar effects to a USN product Nitric Oxide.

Any comments?

 

Hmm, never heard of it, but if its presently available over the counter I seriously doubt there will be health issues, unless you heavily overdose somehow.

 

I have no idea about the legality of the product.

[firewolf]

Perhaps the OTC label means that the amount of a substance per pre-measured recommended dose is way below the amount that would be considered illegal by the UCI and/or WADA.

Will do some research into this - may be interesting to see if this applies to other substances.

[b-unit]

Works like a bomb. Definitely hasn't made me depressed.

[Mads]

I believe it is on the WADA zero tolerance list. Methyhexaneamine. Google'd it and it comes up as less CNS stimulant that methamphetimine.

Also states tha use should be cycled to prevent toxic build up and/or addiction. Also used as "safe party drub" in New Zealand. Authorities considering to make it a controlled substance for general population. (ie non sports people).

Presently its a Over The Counter (OTC) product. Which is fine for non professional sportsman.

Here's the thing ... I tried some yesterday and could feel the surge in energy levels. It's got potential for some explosive power on the bike. BUT.... is it legal for guys at my level? Would use be more of a moral dilemma than a risk of a ban for breaching professional codes of ethics?

And is it worth it in terms of health issues?

 

Very similar effects to a USN product Nitric Oxide.

Any comments?

 

My 2c

I am very cautious and I would not take the risk. I think you playing with fire. Ask yourself whether a few places up the racing ladder is worth the risk. Someone here on the hub gave the advice that you should be able to pronounce all the ingredients of a supplement.

 

Now say Methyhexaneamine

[Dicky DQ]

Isn't this what the Rugby Players got bust for?

[ebenvn]

Before I started cycling I was serious into gym - I used this for 3-4 months. It has lots off cafeine which boost you a lot, but you drop off quickly as well. Wouldnt recommend it for endurance events. Gaspari Superpump is similar, but I got longer peaks with this...

 

If you want more info, PM me - ive tried every supplement on the market

[WR 1.0]

They sell this stuff at Dischem, but it has a big sticker on that states that some ingredients might be on WADA's list of banned substances. Same as some other Gaspari products that states that it might give a false positive in drug testing (WTF?)