Guest Iron Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I wouldn't trust a no name carbon frame, definitely not one in the 1Kg range.Take a look at the Swiss Power boys, 8.6KG 29r .. most drool worthy!http://foto.mtbtr.com/eurobike2008/bikes/images/scott%20scale%20nino%20schurter.jpg Thumper , um correction , its a 26" but hell yes its awesome
Eldron Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Thumper , um correction , its a 26" but hell yes its awesome Hand stitched Dugast tubbies....mmmmm. Nino knows how to chooce his stuff!
gummibear Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Also carbon is definitely lighter than Alu frames - unless you compare a superlight Alu XC to say a DH carbon bike? Carbon is not always lighter. Maybe for the top end sub 900 gram frames,but your avg carbon mtb frame weighs around 1400 grams and so does a good alu frame.The alu frame will be much cheaper and can take a ding or 2,carbon cracks and costs a fortune to repair.
Shift Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Handling/control suffers when riding with a rigid fork...so it all comes down to the type of riding you are going to do. But if you don't even use the suspension, like having it locked out, then yes...go for the rigid set up!
Guest Iron Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Build up a single speed , Mine has a kanesis aluminium frame , rock shox duke , crossmax wheels , xtr breaks , slr saddle, ritchey bits and is 9kg. raceking ust's make it heavy though. Just a thought.
Topwine Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Build up a single speed , Mine has a kanesis aluminium frame , rock shox duke , crossmax wheels , xtr breaks , slr saddle, ritchey bits and is 9kg. raceking ust's make it heavy though. Just a thought. Thats impressive With lighter tyres you can drop another 500 grams. Post a pic of your bike.
Iwan Kemp Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Yes Carbon Should last longer, however get a sharp impact from stone, fall etc. and it will be toast sooner than later. Ali will get a ding or a scratch that is all. Get a chip in Carbon and start considering replacement. OK if you are gonna pussyfoot around on single tracks then go carbon. I have had both. Mongoose Team ali frame with all done 900g lighter than the Mereda Team all done. Mongoose had to be replaced as I reversed my suv over it. Was still going strong after more than 2 years of heavy riding. Then got the Merida, had to have the frame replaced x3. (Ok all done under warranty. Merida is AWSOME!!!!!) but if you paying for everything...... Top end Ali frames are lighter than Carbon. just go to any of the manufacturer's sites and check it out. 1. Top en Ali frames are not lighter than carbon. Post the link you are talking about. Spez, Merida, Cannondle, Giant, Titus, Santa Cruz, GT...all their carbon frames are lighter than their Alu's. What would be the purpose to pay so much more for a heavier frame.2. Chances are a rock sharp enough to damage carbon will damage alu as well.3. Its been years since "pussyfoot around on single track" was the PERCEPTION. http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/takeabao/23816803-0909Fade2Black_LS141.jpg http://www.spokemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Brian-Lopes-hi-res.jpg
Topwine Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Handling/control suffers when riding with a rigid fork...so it all comes down to the type of riding you are going to do. But if you don't even use the suspension, like having it locked out, then yes...go for the rigid set up! Please elaborate because I have tried to do a lot of research and I did not find very negative remarks on them. I'll have mine in a week and report back after testing my "normal" training routes, but as far as I could tell they are "flexible" and give more of a damping effect as opposed to a suspension effect of air forks.
Thumper Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Thumper , um correction , its a 26" but hell yes its awesomeBloody hell boys, give me 2 secs to find the correct pic!Sorted
Guest Iron Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I wouldn't trust a no name carbon frame, definitely not one in the 1Kg range.Take a look at the Swiss Power boys, 8.6KG 29r .. most drool worthy!http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7l9rcQYuo1qd8kd7o1_500.jpg Ahh , now we talking 29er
Eldron Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Please elaborate because I have tried to do a lot of research and I did not find very negative remarks on them. I'll have mine in a week and report back after testing my "normal" training routes, but as far as I could tell they are "flexible" and give more of a damping effect as opposed to a suspension effect of air forks. Carbon has a vibration damping effect not a bump absorption effect. There is no way in hell a carbon fork would come anywhere near a telescopic fork in terms of smoothing the rough. I have a rigid single speed and a front shocked 29er and I'll hapily take the extra 1kg for racing - the time saved on the bumpy stuff easily out does the gains of the weight saving. My opinion of course but to date I haven't seen a rigid bike win XCO, XCM, stage racing or any other form of mtb* *Grant Usher is excluded from this list because he's not human. DIPSLICK 1
Darryl O Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I really do think the best value for money hardtail is the following: http://www.cube-bike.co.za/index.php/hardtails/elite-hpc-sl-details It won Eurobike Gold Award for the best Hardtail Mountain Bike.It weighs 8.3kgs. And this still passes the Cube Din+ strength standard that is 50% higher than most bikes are built too. The dual flex technology really does work well in absorbing high frequency and small bumps at the backyet it still feels like a hardtail. For the price it can't be beaten in terms of weight, technology and looks. PM me if you want more details etc becasue I know people dont want to be advertised too on this forum.
gummibear Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 It weighs 8.3kgs. Very nice looking bike. Is that without pedals?
Topwine Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I really do think the best value for money hardtail is the following: http://www.cube-bike.co.za/index.php/hardtails/elite-hpc-sl-details Value for money @ R49 000 !
Topwine Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I have a rigid single speed and a front shocked 29er and I'll hapily take the extra 1kg for racing - the time saved on the bumpy stuff easily out does the gains of the weight saving. My opinion of course but to date I haven't seen a rigid bike win XCO, XCM, stage racing or any other form of mtb* *Grant Usher is excluded from this list because he's not human. You have a rigid carbon fork on your single speed ?
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