Going back to the wheels thing...I did some googling yesterday evening, but didn't find anything that would change my mind. So, this morning, while riding my bike, I came up with a thought experiment. Get comfy... Let's put a cyclist on a set of rollers. That way there is no straight line acceleration at play, only the rotational acceleration of the wheels (and cranks and the rest of the drivetrain). Now, let's give the bike super-heavy wheels. It's only a thought experiment, so we can make the wheels as heavy as we like. Let's say 500kg each. Now, we ask the cyclist to pedal up to an indicated 30km/h on his bike computer. Remember, he's on rollers, so the bike itself is not accelerating. Basically we're asking the guy to spin up two heavy flywheels. It'll take a while. Now part 2 of the experiment. Replace the super-heavy wheels with super-light wheels. Let's give these wheels a weight of 500 grams each. Does anybody seriously think that the 500 gram wheels will take as long to spin up as the 500kg wheels? Now let's return to what passes for reality in your postcode. When a cyclist accelerates - and lightweight anything is only valuable for acceleration - he has to accelerate the whole package of bike plus rider from a lower speed to a higher speed. But he also has to spin up the wheels, and that is where the flywheel effect comes in. Of course in the real world, we do not go from 500kg wheels to 500g wheels but the effect is nevertheless real. Whether it will make a difference to your life depends on whether you are saving 500 grams, 50 grams or 5 grams. We can debate the size of the flywheel effect, and I agree that over a course (hi GoLefty!!) it will make feck all difference, but for acceleration it will make a difference. Remember this thread is about making a bike lighter, and again, over a course, the ability to ride cleverly, taking advantage of other peoples' draft and so on is way more important than scraping 200g off your bike here and there. For a very long time I was deeply sceptical of this whole notion (rotational inertia). Then I happened to change tyres from some heavy-ass sh!t that I'd bought solely because it matched the colour of my bike to Conti GP's. Suddenly climbing (a special case of acceleration) and acceleration were very different. Yes, I know, sample size of one and anecdotal evidence. Finally, and I promise it is finally, somebody suggested changing the saddle. Change a saddle to get comfortable. Change a saddle to save weight and long rides could start to feel like a traditional prison welcome.