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That is great ! Ashtma and related issues is known to be associated with High Carb diets, especially wheat and gluten.

I am too lazy to make my own, but send the recipe anyway as I might try it. Banana has too much sugar in for me if it is too ripe and big.

You can eat Peanut butter. I eat a lot as well. Just buy the stuff with very little sugar/carbs in .

Hi Jaco You really should read that chapter in Lyle McDonalds book, as there is no specific amount that is going to work for everybody. You should experiment how much and when works best for you. I have started cycling 4 years ago mostly to lose weight and get fit. Now with my ketogenic lifestyle, I achieve both goals much more easily and with less exercise effort. So I just stick with a normal KD and keep my carbs low. That is the key to a long healthy life. Further, I have since learned that too much endurance exercise is not good for you, ie more than 45- 60 min day. Did you know that half of all marthon runners finish with heart damage ? look at his video presentation : http://vimeo.com/54864015

I am definitely going to try and listen as well .

Hi Richard You should read Lyle McDonald's "the ketogenic diet". He has been experimenting and practising various methods and variations of the Ketogenic diet. He is not agreeing with Volek and Kie that it takes 2 weeks to get back into ketosis. The trick is it seems to keep your liver glycogen low or near empty and just fill your muscle stores with carbs. He gets back into ketosis within 1 or 2 days .

You should experiment what works best for you I think. Your protein intake does seem high though and would explain the keto "smell" I weight 68 now and struggle to eat more than 120 g protein a day . If you are fully keto adapted your protein sparing capacity goes up and you prob dont need that much protein as you need during the first 3 weeks (0.7 - 1 g / pound LBM ) of adaption, unless you do some serious weight work . I just finished Lyle Mcdonald's book " The Ketogenic diet" and learned quite a lot. I am going to experiment with his TKD method where you consume a bit more carbs before and after workouts so my muscles can recover a bit more quickly from their depleted glycogen state. All while keeping my blood glucose rises within my strict limits though.

Congrats, you are ketogenic! The fruity smell is because you convert (break down ) too much protein into glucose. How much protein in your diet ? Up the fat if you need more calories and cut some protein.

Hi Richard Could you elaborate on your daily diet and excercise regime ? At what intensity level do you excercise ? How long before you recover ? Do you adjust carb intake at all after excercise ?

For your body weight, your maintenance calorie needs are prob around 3300 calories. add to that your daily excercise calories. You should aim then for a 10-20 % calorie deficit, not too much more as then your metabolism slows down and you overly deplete muscle glycogen and also tends to start to lose muscle protein. Min 150 grams of protein for your size and max 30 grams of carbs, and the rest of calories in fat. Lots and lots of fat ! Lekka !

Thats great progress ! I had a bad TT training ride last week as well where I felt weak right out the blocks. I ascribe it to overly low muscle glycogen levels after a too low calorie intake the previous week. It's just that being on this ketogenic diet really doesn't make you hungry and you tend to eat very little without noticing. If you want to actively train, you have to force yourself to eat more to still burn fat, but not to let the metabolism go down too low or to lose too much muscle glycogen.

There you go again, define other variables when you no longer can defend your own under the originals. We never talked about another "space" than here on earth ... Ready to jump off a cliff yet ?

You think blood transfusions are a natural occurrance ?

Yes, go jump off a cliff and Hope gravity will change. I say it is, and live my life by it. You can't live your life by hoping something like gravity will change to shades of grey.

you like to make things complicated and introduce other variables. Are you saying that gravity is NOT a constant ?

This whole debate could be widened to overall natural vs fake. People are so vane. Should a girl with fake boobs be allowed to win Miss Universe ? Be able to get huge modelling contracts ? etc, etc

You have a valid point.

I think you are over reaching a bit here ... Gravity is not grey. Science works with a lot of absolutes

Errmmm, come again ? Had a drink too many this morning ?

EPO actually does that effectively too . One more good reason to use it responsibly, under supervision, recreationaly. Until they make rules that you get unfair cognitive advantage by doing that ...

Lets put it this way. cheating is in my opinion the same as having an unfair advantage. At the amateur / recreational level this can mean many things. Having the income or money to buy a R80000 bike that weights in at sub 8kg against the student that has to ride a 13 kg donkey. Of course, if you own such an expensive bike, you will rationalise it as not cheating because of rules etc, etc, warra warra, but face it, you are not competing on fair grounds, all other things equal. The same goes if you can afford better nutrition, better "supplements" etc, etc. Sport will never be fair.

the same can probably be said of amateurs buying R80 000 Mountain bikes ...

The problem with you is, you keep on proving that you don't know what you are talking about, and don't know how to comprehend what you read. I have never said that I don't eat carbs. I limit my intake, big difference ! You have still not provided proof that EPO is bad for you when taken responsibly.

Very well said !