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Fruit don't make you fat. People saying that should read the research better and stop reading popular blogs catering for the mass uninformed market. Here is an article commenting on the recent Tim Noakes SAMJ article. Some sensible comments. http://www.timeslive.co.za/ilive/2013/11/04/low-carb-high-fat-diet-is-flawed-ilive

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109710040507 Does Carotid Intima-Media Thickness Regression Predict Reduction of Cardiovascular Events? : A Meta-Analysis of 41 Randomized Trials Conclusions Regression or slowed progression of carotid IMT, induced by cardiovascular drug therapies, do not reflect reduction in cardiovascular events.

If this was a RCT of n=1, then there is no control for smoking 30 a day, excess calories, also prob inactive lyfestyle before , stressfull work/environment, etc, and who knows what else. No evidence that carbs or sugar is the singular cause.

Ok, thought you was talking about the study. Everyone of course has to do what they believe is best. What baffles me is why you want to change your diet only AFTER you have developed prostrate cancer, and then to include more Omega 3 PUFA's which this study, and others, show a much higher risk of getting it in the first place !

This is not an alternative view. This is an objective view based on a RCT (randomised, double blind, controlled Study) the GOLD standard of studies. You cannot get better than this. The men were not "diagnosed" beforehand and "then analyzed". SELECT (the Selenium and Vitamin E Cancer Prevention Trial) is the largest-ever prostate cancer prevention trial. http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/noteworthy-trials/select/Page1 Design, Setting, and Participants A total of 35 533 men from 427 study sites in the United States, Canada, and Puerto Rico were randomized between August 22, 2001, and June 24, 2004. Eligibility criteria included a prostate-specific antigen (PSA) of 4.0 ng/mL or less, a digital rectal examination not suspicious for prostate cancer, and age 50 years or older for black men and 55 years or older for all others. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1104493 As part of the study their blood samples were collected every 6 months, starting at base line. Analysis of the people that developed prostate cancer after the next 5.5 years, showed these results. Conclusions This study confirms previous reports of increased prostate cancer risk among men with high blood concentrations of LCω-3PUFA. The consistency of these findings suggests that these fatty acids are involved in prostate tumorigenesis. Recommendations to increase LCω-3PUFA intake should consider its potential risks. http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/105/15/1132

Further independent arguments against fish oil and other omega 3 oils like flaxseed oil . Why do you think flaxseed oil needs to be kept in a refrigerator ? ... http://www.brianpesk...l Fallacies.pdf http://raypeat.com/a...s/fishoil.shtml “In declaring EPA and DHA to be safe, the FDA neglected to evaluate their antithyroid, immunosuppressive, lipid peroxidative (Song et al., 2000), light sensitizing, and antimitochondrial effects, their depression of glucose oxidation (Delarue et al., 2003), and their contribution to metastatic cancer (Klieveri, et al., 2000), lipofuscinosis and liver damage, among other problems.” And then people complain about glucose intolerance when they consume these oils 50 ml at a time !!

Link To Prostate Cancer Brings More Bad News For Fish Oil Story http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryhusten/2013/07/11/link-to-prostate-cancer-brings-more-bad-news-for-fish-oil-story/ Adding more confusion to an already fishy story, a new study has found a significant association between omega-3 fatty acids and the risk of prostate cancer. Although the linkage had been previously observed, the finding surprised the investigators, who wrote that ”these findings contradict the expectation that high consumption of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids and low consumption of omega-6 fatty acids would reduce the risk of prostate cancer.” In a report published in JNCI, investigators analyzed data from men who had participated in the SELECT (Selenium and Vitamin E Cancer Prevention Trial) trial. They compared 834 men who developed prostate cancer with 1,393 matched controls. When compared with men who had the lowest levels of omega-3 fatty acids, men in the highest quartile of omega-3 fatty acids were at significantly increased risk for low-grade, high-grade, and total prostate cancer: low-grade: hazard ratio = 1.44, CI 1.08-1.93 high-grade: HR = 1.71, CI 1.00- 2.94 total: HR = 1.43, CI = 1.09 to 1.88 Further contributing to the counter-intuitive findings, men with higher levels of trans-fatty acids had a lower risk for high-grade prostate cancer. The authors concluded that despite the absence of a “coherent mechanism” to explain the finding, the available data “suggests that long-chain omega-3 PUFA do play a role in enhancing prostate tumorigenesis. As has been made evident from many other clinical trials of nutritional supplements and cancer risk, the associations of nutrients with chronic disease are complex and may affect diseases differently. Long-chain omega-3 PUFA have been widely promoted for prevention of heart disease and cancer. Both this study and a recent meta-analysis of clinical trials showing no effects of long-chain omega-3 PUFA supplementation on all-cause mortality, cardiac death, myocardial infarction, or stroke suggest that general recommendations to increase long-chain omega-3 PUFA intake should consider its potential risks.” The new study, although it did not specifically look at people taking fish oil supplements, is the latest in a series of studies that have cast doubt on the benefits of fish oils and the wisdom of taking fish oil supplements. Last year, a large meta-analysis and systematic review in JAMA found no cardiovascular benefits with fish oil supplements. In May, a study from Italy published in the New England Journal of Medicine also found no benefits for people taking fish oil supplements.

http://authoritynutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/polyunsaturated-fat-consumption.jpg http://authoritynutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/linoleic-acid-in-body-fat.jpg Source : http://authoritynutrition.com/are-vegetable-and-seed-oils-bad/

How statin drugs really lower cholesterol & kill you one cell at a time http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2013/10/how-statin-drugs-really-lower-cholesterol-and-kill-you-one-cell-at-a-time/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22968891 JAMA. 2012 Sep 12;308(10):1024-33. doi: 10.1001/2012.jama.11374. Association between omega-3 fatty acid supplementation and risk of major cardiovascular disease events: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Rizos EC, Ntzani EE, Bika E, Kostapanos MS, Elisaf MS. Source Lipid Disorders Clinic, Department of Internal Medicine, University Hospital of Ioannina, Ioannina, Greece CONCLUSION: Overall, omega-3 PUFA supplementation was not associated with a lower risk of all-cause mortality, cardiac death, sudden death, myocardial infarction, or stroke based on relative and absolute measures of association.

Love him or hate him (mostly Low carbers and vegans !), none has been able to refute him yet. This is a long read, but essential reading imo if you value objectivity and different opinions. Do read the whole article. Cold hands or feet anyone ? Poor libido ? http://anthonycolpo.com/sorry-danny-albers-but-low-carb-diets-still-suck-for-athletes/ Let me give you an idea, from a guy who was once a very passionate low-carb devotee and who earnestly believed low-carb diets conferred no performance disadvantage whatsoever. This gentleman spent far, far longer on a low-carb diet than Mark “Doc Ott”, Darilyn Doddy, Jamie Caporosso or Mike Morton. This guy followed every variation of a low-carb diet you could think of: Non-ketogenic, cyclic ketogenic, targeted ketogenic, intermittently fasted ketogenic, intermittently fasted targeted ketogenic, and on and on and bloody on. I have no qualms about citing this guy, because I’m intimately familiar with his situation. That guy is me. Yep, I followed a low-carb diet for some 7-8 years, and convinced myself for most of that time that I was doing just fine. My main form of physical activity during this time was lifting weights, along with grappling and MMA classes. I made some good strength gains over the years, even during the ketogenic phase, and for years my body fat percentage hovered around the 6% mark. Like Darilyn, Mike and Joel, I appeared to be living, breathing testimony that low-carb diets were just fine for active individuals. That is, until the day in 2006 that I bought myself a shiny new road bicycle. I started riding that baby in the hills, and at first everything seemed fine. But then reality started biting me on the ass, as it always does when you’ve been living under a delusion for way too long. It was only a matter of weeks before my legs started to feel like concrete blocks and my ride times started going to hell in a handbasket. The day I got dropped up Monbulk-Olinda Road by some guy with pipestem legs was the last straw. I went home, said goodbye and good riddance to my ketogenic ways, and was delighted to see my performance on the bike improve immediately. Fast forward another 2 years, and I gave not just ketogenic but low-carbing in general the big middle finger. And it was truly one of the best and most liberating things I’d ever done (yep, dietary divorce can be just as invigorating as the real thing hahaha). Along with further dramatic improvements in my cycling fitness, I noticed improvements in mood and something else that was quite memorable: My shockingly low tolerance for cold weather had disappeared. No longer did my nose and fingers feel ice cold to the touch in winter, and no longer did I have to use 3 doona covers on my bed. Hell, it sounds absurd looking back, but that’s where I was. Yep, thanks to my low-carb diet, I’d endured years of Euthyroid Sick Syndrome and had no idea why until after I dumped this sorry way of eating.

Have a good laugh for a change ! (warning if explicit language offends you, give a pass, but it's quite good ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=773hzYEq22s&feature=player_embedded

Insulin resistance on a HF diet: Heads up, Omega 3 fats make it worse ! Normally when you ingest a high fat diet, your muscles become a bit insulin resistant, but the pancreas just reponds by higher insulin production (if they are able to) to maintain normal glucose response, creating a hyperinsulin state. However, if you ingest Omega 3 fats with saturated fats, the pancreas are impaired in their ability to increase insulin production and the liver also becomes more insulin resistant so that more glucose is released. The net effect is impaired glucose response in the whole body, ie higher BG levels in response to a glucose test. http://endo.endojournals.org/content/144/9/3958.long Irrespective of the mechanism, these data imply that the insulin response to glucose is suppressed to a greater extent than whole-body insulin sensitivity is enhanced by enrichment of a HIFAT by long-chain ω-3 fatty acids.

http://anthonycolpo....r-your-thyroid/ The clinical observation that carbohydrate restriction – to both ketogenic and non-ketogenic levels – significantly reduces levels of the grand-daddy thyroid hormone triiodothyronine (T3) is so reliable and consistent you can set your watch by it. It’s been shown time after time, in trial after trial. Lower thyroid (T3) means lower metabolism, means even relative small amount of food can make you fat, or stall weight loss. Apart from that, even more importantly, having a low metabolism is veru unhealthy for many processes in your body. Every single cell in your body needs thyroid hormone to function optimally.

Low carb Dogma: http://www.maxcondition.com/page.php?152 This guy has done it all and for many years. See his bio, http://maxcondition.com/page.php?3 Interesting how bodybuilders are able to manipulate their body weights in wide range, At the peak of my bodybuilding endeavors I weighed 216 lbs at 18 percent body fat and competed at around 150-155 lbs at 4.5-5.5 percent body fat.

A very good critique of Prof Lustig's "sugar and fructose is poison" argument. This post is very popular and the writer is highly regarded. http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/ and a summary of the comments for those that don't want to read through more than 700 (and counting) of them ! http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/02/19/a-retrospective-of-the-fructose-alarmism-debate/ What is interesting is how even "experts" can get their facts wrong about simple things like sugar in Japanese diets and actual food consumption data in general.

Omega 3 fats can cause prostate cancer. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23843441?dopt=Abstract CONCLUSIONS: This study confirms previous reports of increased prostate cancer risk among men with high blood concentrations of LCω-3PUFA. The consistency of these findings suggests that these fatty acids are involved in prostate tumorigenesis. Recommendations to increase LCω-3PUFA intake should consider its potential risks. I really don't know why people won't just dump the omega 6 and 3 oils and focus on the good stuff like coconut oil and saturated animal fats.

One thing we agree on !

Many people regularly posts their blood glucose readings and it seems the lower the better is the popular opinion. I have not seen any studies what an optimum BG level is, but what I have read is that lower BG levels is detrimental to health and development, especially in the fetus and children. Giving something sweet, like sugar or sweet tea to raise BG have always been given to people in shock. Wonder why ? It must work . Interestingly, low BG seems to cause a higher susceptibility to allergies as well. http://www.functiona...ergy-and-shock/ Hypoglycemia (which can result from any respiratory defect) can produce malfunction of any tissue, but brain dysfunction and immune dysfunction are very common effects. Adamkiewicz has shown that allergic reactions to a given substance will decrease from 100 percent to zero, when the blood glucose increases from, for example, 50 mg. to 150 mg. or more.” -Ray Peat, PhD ‎”…Blood sugar is usually the thing to pay most attention to, everything becomes an allergen if the glucose is chronically low. Thyroid is the main thing that stabilizes the blood sugar. Aspirin usually helps with allergies…” -Ray Peat, PhD AJP – Legacy Content January 1960 vol. 198 no. 1 51-53 Glucose and the dextran ‘anaphylactoid’ inflammation V. W. Adamkiewicz and Lidia M. Adamkiewicz The Journal of Immunology January 1, 1964 vol. 92 no. 1 3-7 Glycemic States and the Horse-Serum and Egg-White Anaphylactic Shock in Rats1 V. W. Adamkiewicz, P. J. Sacra and J. Ventura Br. J. Pharmac. Chemother. (1967), 31, 351-355. THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE BLOOD SUGAR LEVEL TO THE SEVERITY OF ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK H. L. DHAR, R. K. SANYAL AND G. B. WEST*

LC = Death to Metabolism http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2010/12/12/low-carb-diet-death-to-metabolism/ “Low carb” is a nutritional buzz word and talks about avoiding sugar because “it’s the devil” are commonly echoed ad nauseam among both lay persons and health professionals. But does this approach having any sound backing to it when it comes to supporting health and metabolism? Long-term effects of a low carb lifestyle Low carb dieting appears to be a good strategy to spur fat loss and lower scale weight in the short term. However, the plan’s short-term fat loss comes at the expense of suppressing the resting metabolism long term, destroying our own tissues, depleting glycogen, burdening the liver, and stressing every cell in the body. The effects of chronically high adrenaline and cortisol used to support both lipolysis and gluconeogenesis are widespread.

Blood sugar balance using protective and digestible food choices is a fundamental of good nutrition practices. While some will argue that we don’t need to eat carbohydrate because our body can make carbohydrate from itself, that side of the fence is looking at physiology through a pin hole and misses the big picture. Ample carbohydrate particularly from ripe fruits, orange juice, milk, honey, and sucrose keeps the alarm state and vicious inflammatory cycles at bay. The body uses its own tissues to make glucose during hypoglycemia because glucose is important in maintaining optimal function. Without enough dietary carbohydrate, the body becomes dependent on stress hormones for glucose. For optimal health, sustain blood sugar with food, not stress hormones. http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2012/11/16/low-blood-sugar-basics/

One of the major consequences of a VLCD is significant higher adrenaline and cortisol production. Cortisol is a major stress hormone and leads to rapid aging and other negative issues. Cortisol also tends to lead to belly fat. More about the relationship about cortisol and body/belly fat here, http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2010/09/01/quick-hits-belly-fat-hormones-and-stress/ In short, a VLC diet leads to a stressfull bodystate, which is very unhealthy longterm and leads to accelerated aging and heart disease and damage.

Never liked the taste of coconut. Now we put coconut oil in everything. It grows on you ! Another good oil is palm kernel oil . Coconut oil is made from the coconut kernel .

Hi Dale Sorry to hear about your daughter. I am willing to discuss what I have learned and share with you via PM, because most people on this thread have made it quite clear that they are only interested in pro LC information and discard anything or anyone with the opposite viewpoint. I once thought LC was the holy grail as well, and practiced it (VLC/ketogenic) for about 9 months, but that was before I knew better. I don't discount it's value in certain therapeutic uses, but don't think it's a long term sollution.

which reminds me ... another symptom is reduced cognitive ability ...