MDW

Hi Break I have to disagree with you on this, as its even been proven under general testing by one of the worlds leading sports scientists that if you dont even swallow an energy drink just swirl it in your mouth, its has a huge impact on performance equivalent to as if you had swallowed the drink. Sports science has not even yet scratched the surface of sports nutrition and there is a long way to go. As for 32Gi, the past few months, the following results were achieved and at a very high intensity of racing I can assure you. 7 Gold Medals at Comrades including 1st and 2nd in the mens. 7 Kona Qualifiers for Ironman Hawaii World Champs BSG Energade Series Win 5150 Triathlon Overall Mens Win SA Duathlon Championships Win Podiums and a stage Win at the Tour de Free State, 2nd in the points jersey Knysna Big 5 Win - Overall Woman South Africas 1st Gold Medal at the All African Games with a win in the Mens Triathlon South Africas 2nd Gold Medal at the All African Games with a win in the Womens Triathlon Xterra European Championships in Germany 4th place overall, 2nd in Sicily The list really goes on and on, and in all honesty 32Gi athletes have currently racked up more wins and medals in most sports across the country, I would definitely say the puts slow releasing carbohydrates in the limelight don't you? Its an interesting debate but in all honesty if you read Tim Noakes latest article in the Discovery Health magazine he will say he has been wrong all these years we all have, he has cut out all processed carbs from his diet, and has increased lean eating, he has specifically stated he has had the best running times and best physique in the past 15 years. The problem is we are all so dependent on external energy stores we never really allow ourselves to reach our true potential by tapping into our own, 32Gi allows that, you should try it you might be very surprised. Remember there are no quick fixes, everything boils down to daily nutrition this is the key in any sporting event. all the best M

Hey Audible, have you tried the 32Gi Neutral flavour it can be used on its own or in conjunction with the other flavours to provide your own level of sweetness, give it a shot.

The concern for your children should not be around preservatives, because drinks that are very high in sugar content, are far from neutral in ph and actually do not need a preservative in them, so if there is no preservative be far more concerned. To be honest and not because I am involved with the product but if you are going to give your kids anything it should be water and if not apple juice diluted or 32Gi, the sports supplements in the market are not suitable for children and that includes the likes of Energade.

I did some blood glucose testing on the 32Gi chews, which will show you the stability. So basically I did this: Oats breakfast, with future life in it, honey, yoghurt, almonds,half apple, nice pre-race meal :-) 1:30 later did a blood glucose test blood glucose sat at 5.4 I then ate 4 packets of 32Gi chews right after each other, yes I know ill feeling from overload, BUT then took my blood glucose levels +-25minutes after, and blood glucose went to 6.2 it stayed stable for 90minutes and then went back to 5.4 after. Really shows stability and balanced release. Check it out on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/user/32GiEnergy#p/a/u/1/6nN2GVlPGqU

Chubba Most people have aching legs after a hard ride, its normal. I am not sure how old you are, what you weigh, how many years you have been cycling for etc. But I saw there was a training program below, but there is no generic for everyone, you need to take your current abilities and improve upon them. Nutrition, training and recovery are key, the question is how do you manage all three within your current regime. You need to also train towards specific goals, training without a key focus is useless if you dont know exactly what you are working towards. If you can give me some more specifics I can really help you, but I would need to know a fair bit more about you, as mentioned above. all the best M

word of advice NEVER take in a high GI drink before a race, it will just spike you and drop you before u get anywhere. You want to fuel with a low GI meal in the morning, and a low GI energy drink or fuel before the race. Remember to keep hydration and energy requirements seperate as too much liquid might leave u feeling a little uncomfortable for your liking. Not being biased, but 32Gi is an excellent pre-load to a race, due to its not spiking slow release properties. Just keep water to a minimum especially if u suffer from a weak bladder :-)

No quite Redsox ;-)

In short its a form of sugar extracted from starch such as wheat or corn. It does not provide long lasting energy, but quick release very quick :-)

Hi All Here to help :-) and agreed for an endurance event of this nature 32Gi is not the product for recovery, where is does assist is that it improves post exercise glycemia, ie: keeping your glucose levels balanced. As for recovery there are really two other types aside from hydration recovery and those are: 1. Glycogen repair 2. Muscle synthesis GLYCOGEN REPAIR The first you need to take in a a decent high GI product to kick it off and then a decent meal. My suggestion would be a complex carb such as oats, with yogurt, honey and some fruit. A little trick with this is to actually take a very strong dose of caffeine with it, such as a very strong black cup of coffee, or a double espresso. Its been shown that caffeine together with a complex carb can speed up the glycogen repair process by up to 60%. Try it, it works like and absolute bomb :-) its a secret, oh and guess what its not a supplement LOL. MUSCLE SYNTHESIS Muscle repair occurs, by taking in a protein with a carb to speed up absorption. My recommendation to assist both glycogen and muscle repair in a single drink would be an 89% protein to 11% maltodextrin (my choice), also the type of protein you use is important. Whey is quite popular due to its fast digesting properties, but be careful, ensure its of a high quality or else you going to have an irritable stomach and most likely flatulence. I prefer soya I have a very sensitive stomach, and the advantage of soya is it digests slower, yet it has a higher absorption rate then whey, also it tastes far better. I would not look at egg protein (albumin). Its important to take in the protein shake, within 20 minutes upon completing the exercise or event to ensure maximum muscle absorption during this window period. Hope this helps all the best Mark

No problem at all, YES I definitely recommend the chews with the drink. I have been using the chews with the drink for racing now for 9 months and it keeps my energy levels so topped up and balanced. Coming off the bike onto the run I have never felt better at all, had 2 PB's in the last two 70.3's :-)

Come on guys, Its not a new study, the Birmingham report has been around for 5 years, and it speaks about gastric emptying under a certain set of conditions. I can show you reports which show positive aspects about isomaltulose. If you are interested in the complete report because what was showed in there was a fraction of it, and if you are interested in the testing conditions etc, you are welcome to contact me. Results speak for themselves, 100 pro athletes, 4 gold medals at Comrades, Energade series wins and most podiums,7 Ironman slots in Hawaii, on Sunday at IM we won 35-39 category, 40-44 category and 45-59 category, and others fuelled on 32Gi. These are only a small amount of results. Any "researcher" that says they are skeptical is not a researcher they are biased from the onset. Finally 32Gi is not just a drink, its chews as well, which we advocate for high intensity racing, so how can you compare apples with oranges, you cannot. I just think that a single article written in a biased way,with a research report which is 5 years old, is really a poor explanation of how a product actually performs. all the best M

No problem, by the way, I only have 150ml - 200ml with the half serving i find its more than sufficient, i feel too bloated with any more liquid. By the way we are launching 2 new products soon, which will answer the need for a little more of a kick, BUT a great taper, its been tested the past 3 months and nearly ready

Thats an excellent question :-) Generally I would want to take in closer to 100grams of carbs pre-race, low GI of course, so I take in a slice of toast or 2 and then a half serving of 32Gi, in a concentrate, the balance i might sip on a little before the race, I cannot take in too much liquid. The answer is YES you can use it as a pre-race load, I just prefer something a little more solid inside. Also remember to play with it in training to see how it works for you. all the best M

I would recommend Xylitol over fructose for my customers during the day as well, but not for cooking with. I do also think you need to limit the intake of Xylitol, only for the fact that it can cause stomach irritability, ie: the runs in large doses. But wiser choice.

OK, mmm, there has been a lot of comments made here which are not actually true. @ChickenRun, you might have suffered at Clarens,but I have tons of compliments from MTB's who actually had an amazing experience on the product. I think you will find anyone who has a bad experience will blame what they took in. In all honesty lets face it, your daily nutrition and training regime is most important when it comes to racing. 32Gi wont get you out of a bonk its not possible, but its there to stabilise you and assist in preventing you from bonking. Secondly, if I analysed your race nutrition and training and took a look at what you took in leading up to the race, before and during, I would pick up the reasons for a bad run. Taking in high GI with 32Gi is NOT a bad thing, so I dont know why people say that, our drink still tapers off the spike effect, and stabilises you. Most athletes I have spoken to who have a bad experience on the product made many key mistakes, many, especially taking in too little calories on an event where they needed a higher intake. You cannot race on 32Gi alone and we have stressed that many times, its why we have the chews on the market, its race fuel. @Ageteros, the athletes that use our product are not paid to use it, or asked to endorse it. If we get approached by an athlete for sponsorship, I insist on them testing it, and using it, before we look at brining them on board, because I want an athlete that the product works for and not one taking it for the sake of it, its that simple, and I am very strict on that. I take a lot of time to work with the athletes, understand their diet, training regimes and race fuel, its not as simple as just saying we will give you product and u brand yourself and give us exposure. Its about feedback and honesty when it comes to using the product. I want to know if my athletes needed to take a gel, when they took, what they ate before the race and during and all this data is collected, collated analysed. 32Gi is not the b all and end all of nutrition, it is however an amazing stabiliser. OK, next thing, your coach who says that our carb is an artificial sweetener does not know what he is talking about. I can also throw degrees at you, I have 2 degrees, 2 masters and can go on, but thats not whats important. What is important is the facts around isomaltulose which are: What is isomaltulose? Isomaltulose is NOT an artificial sweetener at all. It is a carbohydrate like e.g. sucrose, fructose or maltodextrin. You can find it in honey or sugar cane juice, and it is made from sugar (sucrose). It is not artificial. Like sucrose, isomaltulose consists of a glucose and a fructose. Only the linkage is different (isomaltulose has an alpha-1,6 linkage also known from starch, sucrose an alpha 1,2 linkage), which gives isomaltulose physiological benefits, e.g. it is kind to teeth, it is fully digestible providing the full 4 calories of carbs, but it has a lower effect on blood sugar levels and so provides this energy in a more balanced way over longer time. Isomaltulose and intolerances to fructose or starch There are very few individuals are intolerant to fructose by an inherited enzyme defect which does not allow them to metabolize fructose in the liver , and those people need to avoid sources of fructose in their diet. Individuals who lack the enzyme isomaltase are intolerant to starch and all those products containing starch (e.g. bread, rice, potatoes). The number of people affected by either of this is very small, and such a fructose or starch intolerance is known from early childhood. People affected by this are largely compromised in their diet and typically seek regular advice from their medical doctors. If you can enjoy sugar and sweets as well as starchy foods as much as essentially everbody can, you can enjoy isomaltulose, too. Benefits of isomaltulose in sports drinks Isomaltulose has unique benefits in sports drinks: Because of its its different linkage, isomaltulose is released into the body in a more steady way. This means that it provide carb ohydrate energy in a more balanced way compared to other carbs like sucrose or maltodextrin. The advantages of this in endurance sports have been shown: Isomaltulose provides sufficient energy during the exercise and at the same time allows a higher contribution of fat burning than with other carbohydrates. Knowing the importance of high fat burning levels for the sparing of carbohydrate stores (i.e. glycogen) in endurance sports (one effect you want to improve by training as well), the potential benefit of isomaltulose to enhance endurance performance becomes evident... Many people who have tried it are convinced and we have had lots of positive feedback. The above are straight scientific facts and I can bring many doctors into this debate over artificial or not, the fact is its definitely not, and your coach is making a baseless statement like that without the intimate knowledge of the carbohydrate is blowing damaging wind unnecessarily. We went through 2 years of proper research and many many experts across the globe before we brought this in, its not something that happened overnight. I agree in a race of high intensity, you cannot rely only on 32Gi to provide sufficient calories, you need to top up with chews or something else, but it will significantly keep your drop from being sudden and having to recover. But that is really obvious, because over 3-4 hours if you are burning off 750-1000 calories an hour you cannot expect to take in a bottle of 32Gi and get your required intake. Electrolytes yes, stability yes, but enough calories for sure not. In an IM i did recently overseas i was taking in a packet of chews every 60-90 minutes with the drink over a 4 hour bike leg to ensure my levels did not dip, only the drink would have seen me finished in that race. I can debate this for hours, we are not sugar coating our product at all, it has a great place, and there is an art to proper nutrition when racing, its so key and needs to be so calculated and everyone is very different from the next. I work with athletes on a daily basis to ensure they are getting what they need to perform, my focus is not around only during the race, but days before, and pre-race, during and post, depending on the event. There is no one recipe fits all, but there is a logic to getting the right fit if you understand exactly what is required. An event should never be a shock to the system, you need to understand where you are going and how you are going to get through it. Be prepared and know not just the effort you are planning on putting out, but how you are going to fuel your effort as well. Plan for surprises as well, and try and stick to it. Anyway, my fair say here, I hope this clarifies some issues mentioned above all the best M

I could let u do that but then I would be not very helpful, in assisting you and if you want to get the best effect, rather dont start drinking that bottle before the race. You want to keep your pre-race meals as low GI as possible so as to not spike you before the start, what you are mixing will take u into a high GI range, rather use it during the race and not before :-) all the best Mark PS: Who wrote the article by the way?

Fructose actually has a Gi of 19 ;-), the problem with fructose is it does not release immediately, it has to go through the liver and then get broken down into glucose before it comes into action. Also if you actually to a response test with fructose you will see you dont get a peak only a drop. 32Gi actually has a low GI as well, BUT, you get the immediate release of glucose, PLUS the breakdown of Fructose in the process = 2 for 1, try it you will see, we have experimented a lot with these types of mixes over the past few years. One more thing is its known that fructose can caused liver impedance, its not the healthiest of sugars and i would avoid it in large doses.

some advice ;-), instead of the fructose with the MD, try 32Gi mixed with it, as fructose does not peak at all it tapers off, with the isomaltulose carb we use in 32Gi combined with MD you will get a nice peak and it will taper u off for longer than fructose :-) we have a non-flavoured/neutral flavour if u r worried about taste blends. This will also give you a 2 way digestive method. By the way, just so you understand, 32Gi on its own digests two ways :-), thats whats unique about the carb, it releases immediately, but it also does a second pass through the liver, allowing 1000% take up and digestibility, nothing goes to waste. So adding in some MD if you really want to take it up to the 75gram mark is ok, u just need to play with it. One more thing, Maltodextrin on its own is a shocker, it spikes like nothing on this planet, so be wary because when it wears off if you dont feed frequently and miss a feed, u will drop like a bomb from where u will really battle to recover :-)

I must be honest, I bought stuff from them many times, and was highly impressed with their service. I have bought TacX trainers and clothing from them. Once they sent me 2 complete winter sets but left out 2 components in the shipment, when I notified them, they just apologized sent me the missing garments and gave me a £50 voucher as part of the apology :-) I was a satisfied customer, sorry you had a bad experience.

@DeLoCo great to hear tnx

That is the problem without a doubt

Crackberry, I need to ask you a couple of questions here, because you have mentioned some really pinpointed facts which make me think constantly. Firstly how long have you been riding for? This is important to know, you mention weight training, squats etc, but in all honesty you cannot compare that to cycling. If you understand muscle conditioning, and post activation potentiation, you will know that you have 2 types of main muscle fibers, fast and slow twitch are also broken down into other types of fiber classifications. Squatting and or weight training predominately activates your fast twitch fibers, the type of fibers you would not really activate on a long ride, as its your slow twitch fibers that you will mainly use until some real bursts of pace come to the surface. So what this actually means is, you have well trained fast twitch muscle fiber, BUT under-trained slow twitch muscle fiber, which is really your required endurance muscles for distance and long bouts of exercise. What will basically happen is that on a long ride, you will over use the under-trained muscles leading to cramping. Post activation potentiation is really the ability to prolong or to hold back the engagement of those fast twitch fibers until they are really needed, ie: the break away or sprint to the finish. As a simple explanation a guy who runs sub 3 hour marathons continuously and then decides to run a comrades at a slower pace without having trained at a slower pace will surely cramp due to muscle fibers not been conditioned for this particular pace. OK so thats the first explanation of possible cramping. One thing I always ask my clients, When you cramp is it a particular area of the body, ie: only the quads or only the hamstring, one side or both. You see if you have an electrolyte deficiency, you will not just have localized cramping you will cramp over your entire body even core and upper, electrolyte deficiency is everywhere not just in one area and usually this refers back to muscle conditioning. Another thing you mentioned was you drink loads of water, well thats also not a good idea, as over hydrating yourself with a liquid without any electrolytes will surely dilute your electrolyte levels and this can lead to cramping as well. You need to take in an electrolytic drink when exercising for long periods to ensure proper hydration. Dont over-hydrate it can also lead to cramping issues and not just due to electrolytic depletion, but also gastric emptying problems. If you really do have a totally salt deficient diet, and this is an area of concern, a simple trick will demonstrate whether its this or muscle conditioning, take in an electrolyte replenishment along your route and see how it goes. I can honestly say for a ride of 3 hours upwards I would stay away from water only, but if you want to try with water, get yourself some Hammer endurolytes and see what the outcome is. If you are diabetic, 32Gi will surely answer your question for a isotonic carbo drink on route. Hope this helps all the best M

My take: Veridian Sports Multi - Its the best MV on the market and I will argue that away with anyone, BUT you pay big for it. Solal - Omega 3,6,9 Spirulina - :-) Solal CLA Vit C complex Calcium Supp. Neurobian once a month in heavy training weeks Vit B Complex Jab with Neurobian and 4 more weeks 2ml a week 32Gi for training and racing, the juice and the chews ;-) Soya Isolate 89/11 isolate MD combo for recovery Now one thing I need to stress, supplements are only supplements to a HEALTHY DIET. I eat mainly organic, raw and natural foods, I eat nothing processed. I eat 8-9 meals a day, in that are mainly complex carbs, white meat easily digestible proteins, 6-7 portions of fruit and veggies, milk is goats, rice or soya, occassionally a hormone infested cow youghurt as a treat. Freak = Dam Sure ;-)

How many mg's are your CLA tabs?