4feet

http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/1267/Outpouring_of_apathy_as_49_non-neo-Nazi_South_Africans_also_murdered.htm ...and for the record I don't give a sh*t about ET or Jules...nothing I can do can change them or their idiotic ramblings, so they are just ignored. For health reasons it appears some of you guys should also adopt this approach, before you have a pump attack.

Nice pics Carl....also having trouble resizing pics for Hub and don't have website. Here are a few of the 4 X course and the qualifying....

Some photo's from the XC yesterday.....quite a hectic course! Too Small!...will adjust and submit all

McDonalds is normally held in Richards Bay over approx. 20km laps through the suburbs. Haven't heard that it moved.

...geez, sorry.....i'll get my stoker off and weigh again Big H, I'm pretty sure that's what I remember...weighed it a few years ago...Sh*t now I'm going to have to weigh it or I won't sleep

...Cannondale with Rolfs weighs in at 16kg....anyone have an idea on the Ravo?

...hey leave me out of this one....and "fourfeet" get your own nick, I don't need you bringing the 4feet brand down with your 2c!

Linnega, you certainly come across generally as intelligent and blessed with common sense....what happened, weren't wearing the helmet?

...just collected and connected my Revelation 3 from Brighter-Lights....the light out of this thing is insane!...can't wait till the sun disappears The quality of the service received from Jo and the quality of the product itself leaves me feeling more than satisfied that I received value for money. My Blackburn X8 just got relegated to my helmet

...have the X8SL...have ridden 1 night race off road and 1 early morning training ride on road...I am more than happy I think it is good value for money and is an adequate light for most, if not all, situations. It's compact and fairly light...battery can fit almost anywhere.

..like it or not, a large portion of the past contributors of relevant topics and participants in meaningful discussion on this forum are gone...yes some return for the odd issue but, by and large, the change that the hub has undergone has not benefited it's members or cycling in general. I suspect that the growth in numbers is negated largely by the attrition of members and their profiles remaining although dormant. Don't get me wrong...there is still a lot of relevant and meaningful discussion but it is just littered and obscured by greater amounts of irrelevant and unnecessary comment. Whether this be brought on through attempts at wit, through poor emotional development or just general poor manners, who knows, but the lack of respect, self control and common decency abounds...shame. Yeah, I come across as a fuddy duddy. I have smoked dope...chewed rope....and shot at the moon in my time but from lifes experiences comes one understanding...down the line the simple things that grandpa taught you about honesty, respect and good manners really do count. Cheers...

...more importantly than personal rights and opinions, a fair indication of the state of a society is it's respect for, as well as inderstanding of, one another as members of that community. Reality is that each of us joined this community because it was cycling oriented and expectations are that, in the main, cycling subjects will dominate discussions. My feeling is that this basic premise has been lost. Respect and understanding in this country has unfortunately been eroded by so called rights and that is clearly reflected here. Cycling has taken a back seat to what everyone perceives to be their personal rights and their right to foist this on all of us. I did not join this forum to discuss politics, religion, rights or sex.....I joined it to engage with similar minded individuals on matters to do with cycling....

...the reality is that the current governors of our country bred a culture of thievery, murder and mayhem into 2 generations of our citizens in the fight against apartheid then expect it to just disappear at the drop of a hat - you reap what is sown

oh CR@P!!!!? I think the safest would be for me to shut up now.? If I try to explain it might just and probably will just get worse.? I'll look for the small lady riding in the one-small-woman-bunch without gloves and introduce myself on Kremetart and try to explain the situation! ? ? Rather look for the one busy chatting away a storm with everyone willing to listen (in the normal bunch - I can actually ride in one with other riders too)!! ...geez and if no-one listens she starts to sing!!!

http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=893837 There appears to be grounds for legal intervention, but hey....i'm just a cyclist!

According to recent news reports the transport unions are refusing to offload or convey the shipment. There are also urgent legal initiatives afoot to prevent the conveyance over SA soil.....lets see what happens.

...here we go with the PC bullsh*t again. What is it that something just cannot be black or white! The shop gave bad service...a very common occurrence in this current SA...let them face the consequenses and learn from it. The problem is that we give them the opportunity to make excuses for their service, these are accepted by the apathetic public and so the ball of sh*t grows. Business is tough guys...do it right or get your butt kicked....

...ai yai yai Chillie...there are less painful ways to get out of the Panorama ....sorry to hear about the prang....hope we still get to hear you and Beee singing along!

idrive....the are times when issues are cut and dry...black or white. The politically correct attitude of ..."oooh we must first get both sides of the story and consider if he had an awkward childhood" is one of the notions that has put this country into a tailspin already. Murderers, rapists and all the dregs of society are given the notion that they have rights despite the fact that their actions deprive others of theirs....as humans we have lost the right to such lofty ideals and unimpeachable ethics....just look around you, it's a f*cking jungle out there mate.

Guys....next you'll be howling for a barber to tackle his dreads. I've got to say that I personally place no emphasis on his appearance...it's what he can do for cycling and I think it would be wrong to judge this "splendid fellow" by his cover!

...I agree with EM, this is a bike forum and I personally log in here to escape the Sh*t on the outside....having said that - EM you're using the opportunity to express your leanings....no one's interested pal, practice what you preach.

I guess you could call that "tandem"