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    Humans tend to feed on herbivores not carnivores. Thus pigs not dogs. I believe it has to do with the quality of the meat, but we have clearly identified and selected animals that are good for food vs. those that are good for companionship. (Unless you are Chinese, but lets keep this in a western frame for the moment). And it is demonstrated in nutritional studies (and several court cases) that veganism has an increased risk of malnourishment, especially in pregnancy and infants - so you can't just say 'no'. The issue may be that we have become sanitised away from the source or our food, and we can't deal with the reality of animal death any more. Maybe we should require people to slaughter their own food to bring the connections back - it is a convenient fact of modern life that meat comes nicely prepackaged in little plastic containers without any animal connection.
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    I am reliably informed that the word is mif. Derived from the wrong way to pour your tea = Milk In First..
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    We should give them the vote. And equal wages too. The argument that animals are people too is just silly.
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    My thoughts were mostly with the trees and the vast tracts of forest being destroyed. Is it not a bit of a stretch that you sympathise only with the animals and not the forest?
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    Agreed, but the point was that veganism doesn't make the difference you're hoping it does.
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    Elands river in Mpumalanga, just around Krugerhof/Waterval Onder. The interesting part is that it is inaccessible from the sea, which apparently is where these longfin eels breed, so he must have flown in.... Inaccessible as evidenced by the Elands River Yellowfish which is a distinct yellow species found only along these 40km or so of river because they are hemmed in by waterfalls up and downriver. Caught in a net in this case. But we do now understand why the locals are not so keen on swimming in the river. they are sometimes seen out and about on the wet grass after rains. The eels are at least.
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    usually only trout and yellows
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    Replying to both, and I do realise this is a simplificaiton, and that means certain limitations. Are farmed animals by definition suffering? Or any animals used by people for that matter. And does not using animal products reduce suffering by this definition? I dispute both points, but if we're arguing about beliefs then that's not going to find a resolution. I'll agree that stock pens for cattle and overcrowded chicken broilers etc. are undesirable, and I think that regulation could do more to improve conditions - i.e. EU rather than US regulatory model. Ultimately though I see a world where we need to utilise animals/animal products. Less good maybe? You believe that animals are suffering. I am not prepared to work towards putting a stop to it. If I am not ignorant, you must conclude on some level that I am either unethical or stupid? It is an important point - there isn't much space in your world for my point of view. injustice echoes the first point - animal utilisation is not unjust in most people's world view. Is horse-riding unjust for example? is it unjust to keep pets? (or perhaps is it unjust to put down an old dog or cat?) Why then is it unjust to keep chickens for eggs or cows for milk, or to shear sheep. And why is in unjust to then slaughter animals for food or leather. Adopting a vegan lifestyle is then a way of making a point about how you feel. but its hardly going to change the world.
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    Call me slow, but.. This is probably the most important learning on this thread - i.e. vegan advocacy - because it seems fundamental to the definition of vegan. Vegans (Odinson, you'll let me know if I'm wrong..?) quite strongly believe it is wrong for anyone to eat meat (or wear leather shoes, wollen jerseys, down jackets), and this is the thing that really defines veganism as being different to vegetarianism (for example). If that holds true then by definition you (as a vegan) believe pretty much everyone non-vegan to be 'a bad person'. Most vegetarians just see it as just a personal choice thing, and as a result they're much more fun around the braai or going clothes shopping.
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    'Minced cows flesh'. Might just be the way you talk about other peoples food.
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    Apparently a group called the WRI. https://twitter.com/_S70DD/status/1157880263613005826
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    Lekker salad idea - simple, healthy, tasty. A spinach and strawberry salad. this is basically a dish I came across on a recent German trip, with less dressing than they put on it. For 4: bowl full of baby spinach leaves (woolies does a nice baby spinach option, or chop big spinach, or grow your own ) punnet fresh basil leaves. stalks removed 1-2 punnets strawberries (optional punnet blueberries) salt, pepper, olive oil, balsamic (or another vinegar option) method chop and combine. top the green part off the strawbs, then stand them on the cut end and slice into thin slices from point to top. halve the blueberries. salt and pepper to taste. pepper is delicious on strawberries. little dash of oil and balsamic to moisten the spinach a bit
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    Actually I think we've already lost one species of banana. This is the already our second best option. The issue being monoculture - (almost) all commercial bananas are essentially the same banana clone. 1 fungus to rule them all? I think its a message to people not to mess with biodiversity so much The 'Gros Michel' banana was the world's premium export banana when it went extinct in 1965 as a victim of fungal 'Panama disease'. That was replaced with the Cavendish banana that we eat today, largely due to its disease resistance. the fungus is apparently catching up.. The good news is that there are thought to be a total of 5 adult wild banana trees left in Madagascar. Where we can go looking for the next replacement banana strain.
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    Odie, I thought there was some slowly forming consensus on using non-triggering, unemotional language here? You would definitely condemn (and police) any equivalent imagery from non-vegans on this thread. Stop it now and be nice when you argue. The US for me has always over-engineered and over-industrialised their food, and the Beyond Burger is perhaps just more progress along these wrong lines? This is the same country that requires a cold chain for their eggs because they wash them in hot water in production - the rest of the world just uses room temperature eggs, and doesn't have botulism to deal with. They also ban live cultures in all sorts of things. like french cheese. Point being they dream up some really weird stuff. BB seems to be 2.5x the cost of actual beef in stores (for pea protein - how many peas had to die..). Interesting strategy for a beef replacement product, and unlikely to swing the masses. Although it might work for a few wealthy true believers. For the rest of us I'm mostly concerned that it will drive up the price of peas.. Do you think that is all profit, or is the industrial meat-making process less efficient than cows? Or that might just be because they seem to be spending a bunch of money sponsoring a lot of academic studies into why their product is such a good idea in the first place.
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    There you go Vegan-baiting again... All the good ones use animal rennets too.
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    Google search: boasting about eating meat - 3.1m results boasting about eating vegetables - 23.3m results It's so awesome that the fragile males are now in the minority
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    So many lessons.. The only way I ever get my disc calipers aligned is by eye. basically look for the little gap around the disc while you work it into place, and thats it. The 'squeeze the lever and let it centre itself' method is probably marketing bullsh1t One of my favourite tools is the chain link remover - basically like a lock-ring remover (think needle nose pliers, but shaped for chain links). Removes the magic link. it only does one job, but it saves so much frustration. Buy proper cable cutters I have 11 bikes (some belong to my wife) - so I bought a leg wax melter and stuck a bunch of candles in it. I wax my chains every 6 months, and then sometimes put lube on top if I'm riding one or other bike a lot. keeps everything smooth shiny ready to ride and rust free. Don't over-Lighten. That light weight kit is for the pros, and half the time it breaks even when they use it..
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    Given that this thread is moving towards 'how do we save the world' (rather than manage our own health) the question I usually come back to is how do we address the growth in the number of people. A population of 9 or 10 billion may be unsustainable, especially if we desire a biodiverse world. A population of 15 or 20 billion is almost certainly not (unless we GMO our food to the point of factory farming ourselves, which doesn't seem all that appealing). As a world population we are guaranteed to lose the battle on climate change. We will see 2-3 degrees C plus in our lifetimes, and people will not give up cars or flying or electricity or intensive agriculture. Or war for that matter, which is also rather high in carbon it turns out. The only real solution it seems is not having 10, 15, 20 billion people (educate and emancipate girls, and thus control fertility are solutions). And if you want that you should look at solutions like universal basic income grants to support better lives (and not our version of paying people to have kids). If veganism is only accessible for a priviliged few then surely it solves nothing more than giving the practitioners something to feel good about.
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    welcome to track
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    Shoes with attitude? https://qz.com/quartzy/1686773/doc-martenss-vegan-boot-business-is-thriving/
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    A friend of mine connected one of the uprights on the barrier on that downhill with his quad, and made a very big hole with lots of blood. So you do have to watch your downhill skills. Otherwise personal safety seems to be no problem.
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    That's the Internet for you..
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    lifelong as in from birth? I don't think there's anyone who is over 40 who had vegan parents. And 95% is not 100% - there are no vegan cultures?
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    I went and checked up on this. The bacteria that make B12 are found inside of animals. I wish I had made that up. I'm sure we both have better things to do. But I think that outright veganism is dangerous, which is why I'm commenting. We eat way too much meat - one version of the recommended meat intake is 2 cigarette-box sized portions a week (from the American college of cardiology), and especially in RSA this is an issue. We are however able to develop (brain and body) as we do because we eat animals - at least until we perfect the nutritional pill (and we haven't got it right yet - thus the dangerous comment). Until then veganism is just you experimenting on yourself. You're allowed to do that, but go easy on expecting the same from others.
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    More neglect? A couple who raised their daughter on a strict vegan diet could face questioning from police after she was admitted to hospital with a degenerative bone condition which left her with the spine of an 80-year-old woman. Doctors treating the 12-year-old are likely to face pressure to report the pair to police and social workers after criticism from nutritionists concerned that the couple's commitment to veganism took precedent over their daughter's wellbeing. In 2001, a vegan couple from west London were sentenced to three years' community rehabilitation after admitting they had starved their baby to death. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2094460/Couple-face-questioning-after-vegan-daughter-suffers-bone-disease.html
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