TNT1 Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 In response to all those stupid motorists versus cyclists threads... That section of the road, the other side of the yellow line, the hard shoulder, is not a "cycle lane". Ok? According to the law in South Africa, pedal cycles are allowed to be ridden on the actual road, the same side of the yellow line as the cars.
Azonic Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 For sure, but it goes without saying that cars won't see it that way.
AndreZA Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Try and get that into motorists heads. But it is safer to ride left of the yellow line then right of it.
TNT1 Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 Try and get that into motorists heads. But it is safer to ride left of the yellow line then right of it. Agreed, but we owe it to ourselves, as cyclists, on this forum to correct that when it's posted here. Largely futile, I know, but still...
Guest Big H Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 In response to all those stupid motorists versus cyclists threads... That section of the road, the other side of the yellow line, the hard shoulder, is not a "cycle lane". Ok? According to the law in South Africa, pedal cycles are allowed to be ridden on the actual road, the same side of the yellow line as the cars. Note to TNT1..... cook your Jungle Oats before eating..... you may then just be in a better mood for the rest of the day, oh .... and if you forget take two Ritalin's.
PeterM Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Thanks for reminding us! Also - if the cyclist/car/bike is in front, normally, they have the right of way and the one at the back has to wait their turn. It is a matter of law enforcement, social norms (it still is ok in SA to be an @ss on the road), and we need some convincing court cases.
Minion Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Something else to clear up on a very similar topic: It is NOT illegal to ride on the left hand side of the yellow line. That particular regulation (298A) applies only to motor vehicles.
Bennie Dikwiel Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 That section of the road, the other side of the yellow line, the hard shoulder, is not a "cycle lane". Ok? According to the law in South Africa, pedal cycles are allowed to be ridden on the actual road, the same side of the yellow line as the cars. Unfortunately for us it is often better to NOT exercise our right to cycle in the actual road and stay alive, than to exercise our right and die. Often I wish that we could be given the same respect motorists give to stray dogs, at least the stray dogs get given a wide berth!
TNT1 Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 Unfortunately for us it is often better to NOT exercise our right to cycle in the actual road and stay alive, than to exercise our right and die. Oh, I know, but when motorists come here and post that the hard shoulder is a cycle lane, we should be correcting them.
AndreZA Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Unfortunately for us it is often better to NOT exercise our right to cycle in the actual road and stay alive, than to exercise our right and die. Often I wish that we could be given the same respect motorists give to stray dogs, at least the stray dogs get given a wide berth! I think stray dogs have more grey matter then some cyclists.
Colin H Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Something else to clear up: Bike plus rider < 100kg. Car plus (idiot) driver >1300kg. Guess who wins?It is not about who is right, but who survives to ride another day.
Top Fuel Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 The problem is not a single person trying to ride and obey the law. The problem is group cyclists that ride 3 to 4 abreast. They then piss the motorist off and he has it in his sights to "get" the next bunch. I have seen this happen too many times. It is a jungle out there and I just want to stay alive, so I will ride as far left as I can.
stewie911 Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 I was almost run over 3 times in the last 24h by a car, bakkie and taxi. Not on topic but I had to get it out of my system.
Seandmerida96 Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Its the hard shoulder that has the glass and debris etc that causes flats and damage to bikes. So we have two options, stuff up our equipment or get flattened, talk about win win!!!
MTBer wannabee Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Left of the yellow line has all sorts of hazzards such as glass, litter, nails so there is no argument there where we would prefer to ride. But when we ride 3 side by side, thats a problem. All cyclists are also motorists. Lets not forget that.
Dsan Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 you are trying to instil logic into a country where drivers STILL do not know how to use a roundabout. Think they can muster enough brain cells to work out how to respect others on the road whilst this basic facet of motoring is still ignored by millions? hardly. Roads in this country are dangerous for anyone using them.
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