Skylark Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 @ Morewood Guru's or anyone that may have some insight!! What is the Best Fork for Shova - 100mm or 120mm or Bigger?I have a Fox RL32 100mm in great cond - How will that work in my Shova(2005 meduim)?I might be slightly to big for the frame(which is kinda how I like it)Is it worth going to all the mission and expense to get a 120MM?What's the advantages/cons of 100mm Vs 120mmAnyone know how to measure a Shova 2005 frame I'm still kinda unsure what size I have...Although it feels amazing whatever size it is Thanks in advance!
Wernervdmerwe Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Shova has 5" of rear travel, so the best fork will be around 140mm.Mate ran with a 170mm, but that placed his weight slightly too far back causing him to bottom out on aggressive berms at speed.Our other riding buddy has a Lyrik spaced to 150mm (upgraded from 150mm Revelation) and loves it.Best fork possibly for XC or Trail would be a Revelation, 120mm-150mm U-Turn
Skylark Posted March 16, 2011 Author Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Hey Werner!So 100mm will probably not be very fair to the bikes capabilitiesHow will a 100mm fork make it feel tho?I have a white Fox RL32 100mm at my disposal currently in great cond Anyone reading this with a longer fork that would be keen to swop for a white Fox RL32 100m - PM me please!! Whats the morewood factory recommendation for a shova? Edited March 16, 2011 by SkyLark
Arkadion Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Running a 150mm RockShox Revelation U Turn on my 2010 Shova, as suggested by Andre from Rushsports. Must say I almost never nose dive or wheelie over ramps, just plain level sailing, and I haven't washed out on any turns (Then again I don't push it that hard ). Running Fox RP23 on rear. I just make sure both shock and forks are topped to correct pressure for my weight once a month! As far as I can remember you just measure from top of seat post (Not seat) to the centre of the bottom bracket for frame size, I think 17" is medium? Could be wrong!
Nobody Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 I have the U turn 110 - 140 and it feels fine. The revelation has many different choices on setup and ride style. I would say anything less than 140 is not going to do the bike justice but I often ride on the 110 setting going up.
Wernervdmerwe Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 SkyLark - if memory serves they recommend a 140mm.A 100mm fork will increase the HA by roughly 2deg, which is quite a bit, might feel sketchy on the trail going down.
whistler Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Had a 130mm Marzocchi XC700 on it, good feel, no nose diving etc, although it was not one of the best forks. I might have abused it a little as well... About to run it with a Revelation 150mm. At last!!(Thanks Werner)
dirtrider Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 They don't recommend it ,but I got 160 on mine and it will never come off !!
Skylark Posted March 17, 2011 Author Posted March 17, 2011 So around 140mm is the go - your seated angle must be really nice and upright at that fork length , supa comfortable bomber style!Anyone have any confirmation of how to measure a Shova 2005 frame?I measured from crank center to seatpost end and it looked like 19"
Skylark Posted March 17, 2011 Author Posted March 17, 2011 Just a side note:What is the correct front dérailleur for the shova?From past experience I know you gotta have an exact model or else you gona be choosing randomly out of the zillion FD madeWould it be possible for someone to give me the exact model of their FD please?Mine is top pull post mount I assume from looking at what's avail to mount it onOr if anyone has the correct FD to sell to me , would be extremely appreciated!
MoreTrails Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Hey Skylark 2005 Shova was designed around a 130mm fork, there weren't 140mm ones developed yet. The new ones, 09 onwards were designed around 140mm. Have ridden a shova with 100mm on it and its just not cricket. I have a 130mm currently and its well balanced, but will be upgrading to a 140mm soon. Anything over that and you need to bump up the pressure in shock otherwise things start to bottom out more regularly. Sell the 100, buy a 140mm. FD is a bottom mount top pull for a 30.9 seat post - so I think it could be a clamp size of 31.6...not sure why that seems like the right number. Top mount won't fit, swing arm gets in the way - tried that, landed up buying another XT FD that did fit....expensive experiment. The Deore ones work just as well, but some people are bike tech sluts... My mate sold his 2010 Shova medium we were discussing...sorry guy Edited March 17, 2011 by MoreTrails
Skylark Posted March 17, 2011 Author Posted March 17, 2011 Thanks MoreTrails - Champion you are!So to confirm :Bottom mount top pull means the FD mechanism is positioned below the FD frame clamp...And Top mount means the FD mechanism is positioned slightly above the FD frame clamp? And I need a bottom mount top pull for a 30.9 seat post for my Shova 2005?
MoreTrails Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Not quite, I think...sort of! Just kidding, bottom mount means the clamp is below the linkages for the FD - i.e. closest to the BB. Top pull means cable comes directly down the back of the seat tube into clamp on the FD and pulls upwards causing FD to move outwards (bottom pull would mean the cable would follow the down tube and under the BB, like an old Cannondale). SOunds right...in my head Top mount means the clamp is above the linkages and cage part of the FD. Basically, if you can't fit the FD on the bike cause the sing arm gets in the way, then its a top mount. Yes, you need to buy a bottom mount top pull for a 30.9 seatpost (well thats what it is on my 08 model). Otherwise, if possible, take the frame to the LBS just to make sure of the tube size. I am sure as, that the outside diameter is 31.6....not sure why though . Happy hunting.
Skylark Posted March 17, 2011 Author Posted March 17, 2011 So the mount terminology is in relation to the swing linkages not the other way roundI was thinking the swing linkage is below so its a bottom mount whereas it is the opposite...The mount is above the linkages so it is a Top mount. Some google explanations called it top or bottom swing - just to confuse me more But I worked it out even with my minimalistic 10% brain useage bottom swing = top mounttop swing = bottom mount It appears that the Official Shimano Lingo is Top/Bottom Swing
MoreTrails Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Trust a Cape townian to confuse the issue - its like we just have like to much relaxing time here hey man....like really sorry for the confusion and all, but we like can't read the instructions down here....
Skylark Posted March 17, 2011 Author Posted March 17, 2011 Heehee , Must say there must be some damn fine trail rides/single track down in cpt , lions head , signal hill , Kommetjie hills eeish - mountains and sea views same time ek sah.....and the miff cold howling wind thrashing you with rain , which I quite like actually!
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