GoLefty!! Posted November 21, 2007 Share I don't think so Shaun. Brandon mentioned some time ago that the Raleighs are built exclusively for them. Actually the aer many frames that are in fact from the same moulds but with a slightly different layup. So the Raliegh may in fact be "Specially built for them" i.e. They order frames from the manufacturer with a Raleigh chuppie on it instead of a De Rosa chuppie. The resemblance of the frames is too similar to be coincidence. There are a few compnaies that build bikes for others. GiantCannondaleLitespeed spring to mind but there is a factory in Taiwan (not Giant) and two in China that do the same. The Chinese factory's name also escapes me but they also build composite bits and blobs for the Chinese Aero and Astro Space Industries. I don;t seem to recall the Italians placing anything in space recently but companies like Ferrari Engineering and Piaggio awerospace are respected globally........I digressed Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Daemon_ Posted November 21, 2007 Share yep' date=' just checked. Both frames made by Dedacciai![/quote'] Where did you see that? It seems DeRosa's get's handmade in their own factory Check these links about their factory. http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/italia/2007/de_rosa.php http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/italia/2007/de_rosa_02.php _Daemon_2007-11-21 02:16:45 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted November 21, 2007 Share yep' date=' just checked. Both frames made by Dedacciai![/quote'] Where did you see that? It seems DeRosa's get's handmade in their own factory Check these links about their factory. http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/italia/2007/de_rosa.php http://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/italia/2007/de_rosa_02.php So are you saying Raleigh gets made by De Rosa Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted November 21, 2007 Share Dadacciai only makes the tubing and anyone can buy it. The same with Reynolds and Columbus tubing. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
linnega Posted November 21, 2007 Share You can buy either tubes or ready-made frames from Dedacciai. It is possible that Raleigh does the former and De Rosa the latter. Using premade tubes is no different to steel manufacturers that buy tubes from Reynolds and build a bike. Those would still be considered handmade. Dedacciai makes no claims that their frames are made in Italy so one would presume that they are not. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Daemon_ Posted November 21, 2007 Share You can buy either tubes or ready-made frames from Dedacciai. It is possible that Raleigh does the former and De Rosa the latter. Using premade tubes is no different to steel manufacturers that buy tubes from Reynolds and build a bike. Those would still be considered handmade. Dedacciai makes no claims that their frames are made in Italy so one would presume that they are not. Aah ok! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted November 21, 2007 Share handmade smandmade... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvatar Posted November 21, 2007 Share Your choice is clear, Daemon..... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pererace70 Posted November 21, 2007 Share No pic there, iluvatar... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvatar Posted November 21, 2007 Share dammit...hold on a mo' Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvatar Posted November 21, 2007 Share Image... ... linnega2007-11-21 03:31:03 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pererace70 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Iluvatar, click "Post Reply" at the bottom of the thread. Then Click the picture with a little tree in it. That'll take you to the image upload window... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvatar Posted November 21, 2007 Share i have no idea why it didn't work... but there you go. Lapierre ridden by Philippe Gilbert. Sad sad non Lapierre ridden by...someone else... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Daemon_ Posted November 21, 2007 Share i have no idea why it didn't work... but there you go. Lapierre ridden by Philippe Gilbert. Sad sad non Lapierre ridden by...someone else... no thanks.. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Daemon_ Posted November 21, 2007 Share How about this? Colnago C50 http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2696/col500rh4.jpg Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted November 21, 2007 Share How about this? Colnago C50http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2696/col500rh4.jpg Finally a real bicycle tha tlooks like a bicycle and not a space ship. Now look at this. It's a R50k bike and then the owner ran out of money and put on some carbon lookalike bottle cages on. I'm sure you could have gotten real CF ones. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/10235-frame-wars/page/6/#findComment-197149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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