Muscle condition and function

[CatGirl]

1. is it possible for muscles to break down to a point where it doesnt function the way it should/optimally? en as dit die case is, wat doen 'n mens?

 

2. anybody here that can vouch for l-glutamin, that actually drank it for a period of time say 3 months and can say that they feel a difference, meaning their muscle recover quicker, they can cycle for longer, muscles doesnt ache so much after a long ride etc...

[andydude]

3. training - you can do it for 3 months and you'll feel a difference, meaning muscle recover quicker, cycle for longer...

 

I guess on your first point is where what you would call a "tear" in a muscle and where you have to rest for it to recover. On point 2, I don't know l-glutamin.

 

But don't take me too seriously, I still drink milo as a recovery drink.

[MTB_Roadie]

3. training - you can do it for 3 months and you'll feel a difference, meaning muscle recover quicker, cycle for longer...

 

I guess on your first point is where what you would call a "tear" in a muscle and where you have to rest for it to recover. On point 2, I don't know l-glutamin.

 

But don't take me too seriously, I still drink milo as a recovery drink.

 

EK OOK!!! Dit werk nogals

[BigGuy]

I would rather recommend a few free range chicken eggs every day.

[CatGirl]

with the staalwater 60km i did not do my pasta the previous evening, as i always do and also did not take any energy stuff with..i usually eat the 32gi chews, and found that it does give you that little bit extra energy to get up that hill and finish.

 

at about the 57th km my leg muscles just gave up! i just could not pedal anymore..as if my muscles' memory had a memory lapse! why is that?? no strength/power/energy anything of the sort..ffs

[The Drongo]

with the staalwater 60km i did not do my pasta the previous evening, as i always do and also did not take any energy stuff with..i usually eat the 32gi chews, and found that it does give you that little bit extra energy to get up that hill and finish.

 

at about the 57th km my leg muscles just gave up! i just could not pedal anymore..as if my muscles' memory had a memory lapse! why is that?? no strength/power/energy anything of the sort..ffs

 

Yep. I try not to rely on muscle memory. Cycling, Mountains, no diffs. The Brain must rule. Forget the legs. Clip the feet end to the pedals and then get the brain to override. I find 21 Guns by GREENDAY to be very effective. If all else fails then a fair dose of ffs's also works !

[CatGirl]

Yep. I try not to rely on muscle memory. Cycling, Mountains, no diffs. The Brain must rule. Forget the legs. Clip the feet end to the pedals and then get the brain to override. I find 21 Guns by GREENDAY to be very effective. If all else fails then a fair dose of ffs's also works !

 

ek het die ffs's getry tot in so mate dat die see my nie mee kan afwas nie! ha ha haa ma fk daai, ek sal daai roete wee gan ry en weer en weer tot ek die oorhand kry oor my bene!

[Enticement]

Helloise jou liggaam kan homself teoreties "verorber" totdat jy net 'n hopie minerale op die grond is, maar ek het vir jou goeie nuus: dit gebeur nie sommer nie! Al die liggaamsprosesse word deur die brein gereguleer wat antisipeer hoe lank jy met die huidige hulpbronne in jou liggaam gaan regkom en hy (die brein) wil nie eindig as 'n hopie minerale nie. Hy begin dus onmiddellik hekkies inbou wat jou verhoed om te veel te vinnig te doen. Wanneer jy dit regkry om verby hierdie hekkies te kom wat die brein inplekstel is een van die major hekkies wat die brein gebruik iets wat ons "over-training sindrome" noem. Dit word gekoppel aan fisiologiese prosesse - wanneer jou glikogeenstore so laag daal dat dit moeilik is om weer aan te vul. Die regstelling hiervan is 'n herstelproses wat met spesifieke oefeninge en voeding saamgaan. Dis egter makliker om te voorkom as om te herstel!

 

L-glutamine is'n kritiese belangrike aminosuur vir herstel maar word optimaal opgeneem in die teenwoordigheid van ander kritiese nutriente. Dis ook belangrik vir die vervaardiging en afskeiding van groeihormoon. Jy kan gelukkig nie te veel inneem nie maar alle ekstras word uitgeskei. Neem ook kennis dat die placedo effek 'n werklikheid is wanneer jy sekere aanvullings gebruik.

 

Die geheim is om 'n oefenprogram wat gepaardgaan met voedingsinnamebestuur te volg wat jou liggaam help om genoegsaam hersteltyd te he en sodoende jou vordering in die onderskeie komponente van "fiksheid" te optimiseer.

 

Groete

[CatGirl]

j!rr! broer kom wee???? huh??? fewt straight over..watse taal het jy hier gepraat?

 

ek sal ma dit wee moet lees om alles te verstaan wat jy se...

 

maar baie dankie vir die mondvol

[CatGirl]

Enticement: ek het toe gaan oplees oor alles en verstaan nou, net soos mtbmom my ook goeie raad gegee het.

thanks you 2, you pointed me in the right direction.

[jiggs]

Ek bly hier op Caledon en daardie laaste bultjie 10km voor die einde het ek bliksembultjie gedoop en ek sien nou dit was dalk jou en die meeste ander ryers se doodskoot ook.

[davetapson]

with the staalwater 60km i did not do my pasta the previous evening, as i always do and also did not take any energy stuff with..i usually eat the 32gi chews, and found that it does give you that little bit extra energy to get up that hill and finish.

 

at about the 57th km my leg muscles just gave up! i just could not pedal anymore..as if my muscles' memory had a memory lapse! why is that?? no strength/power/energy anything of the sort..ffs

 

You bonked. Because you didn't take in energy, your muscles used up all the energy (glycogen) available to then and then ran out. So you stopped. Cure? Take in energy before it happens. Once it's happened, it's hard to get going again. Once again, the only solution is to take in energy - bum a goo off someone or something, but it's still gonna be a hard road to the end.

 

1. is it possible for muscles to break down to a point where it doesnt function the way it should/optimally? en as dit die case is, wat doen 'n mens?

If you over train (i.e. have insufficient rest for the amount you train, your muscles will slowly break down and your rides will become harder and slower. But I don't think this is what you mean from the quoted post above - I think you're talking about the bonk?

[CatGirl]

Ek bly hier op Caledon en daardie laaste bultjie 10km voor die einde het ek bliksembultjie gedoop en ek sien nou dit was dalk jou en die meeste ander ryers se doodskoot ook.

 

jong ek skrik nie meer vir bulte nie,ek kan hulle ry, ma soos davetapson se..dis nou presies wat gebeur het...ek het mos nou gan oplees oor die glikogeenstore and all the rest wat uitgeput raak....ek het geen lae gi/hoe gi of enige iets gevat daai dag voor gedurende of na die tyd nie..sal nie weer daai fout maak nie..wou ook mar net sien of die energy stuff 'n "all in die mind" ding is...toe nou nie! ek dink ek het my les geleer...ek sal volgende jaar terug gaan en daai 60km gaan wys wie is baas!

 

dankie almal!