BigGuy Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Yeah, interesting that. I still have one of his books here somewhere, I must try find it, really was interesting reading, he also wrote for a few magazines, most notably Muscle and Fitness which was obviously a Joe Weider publication. I didnt know he trained with Yates or started a company with him, interesting. I guess you also know of or have heard of Gary Strydom then, and ex South African (Durban lad I think) who made it in the body building world in LA, he was another proponent of the heavy duty principle, he did very well and has maintained a fairly active career in the sport, but sadly he never made it as big as Mike or Yates.Yes I remember Gary Strydom, before and after the hair transplant thingie...also remembered that he had an extremely hot wife and that they allegedly split because she made him choose between her and the gym...hmmmmmI think the early 90's was a difficult time for bodybuilders, as the drug use was rampant because contest monies soared overnight (not unlike the pro peleton at similar time frame). Some top guys passed away in rather weird circumstances during that time, remember Munzer, Benaziza? Someone once remarked that it looked like a hospital backstage at pro level competitions. Drips everywhere. And there were federal laws against all this, but most of the top guys trained together (USA west coast) and got their "stuff" from the powers-that-be. The drug testing that was introduced was a farce; if you were not ass kissing you were done with. Again, similar to what we have today. And you do not talk out about it either, otherwise you will "break the code". We all know that this is not isolated to bodybuilding or cycling; it happens in most competitive sports. Anyway, here is something I found on the interwebs. Whether it is true or not I do not know, but it makes the cycling pro drug scene look a bit lame doesn't it? This is the last cycle that Andreas Munzer took before he died. He was 30 years old. Weeks 1-10ephedrineaspirinclenbuterolvaliumcaptagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--cytomel Weeks 1-5500mg daily of test enanthate 3.5 grams a week152mg daily of parabolan150mg daily of dianabol 1 gram of dbol a week??? holy ****!!!150mg daily of halotestin20 IU daily of HGH20 IU daily of Insulin Weeks 6-8300mg daily of masteron152mg daily of parabolan250mg daily of winstrol tabs150mg daily of halotestin50mg daily of winstrol inj24 IU daily of HGH Weeks 9-10200mg daily of masteron100mg daily of winny inj200mg daily of halotestin400mg daily of winny tabs24 IU daily of HGHInsulin dailyIGF-1 daily Days 1-3 leading up to showaldactone, lasix That he had space left in the tummy for normal food is beyond me. AFAIK Benaziza died of a lasix (diuretic) overdose.
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Yes I remember Gary Strydom, before and after the hair transplant thingie...also remembered that he had an extremely hot wife and that they allegedly split because she made him choose between her and the gym...hmmmmmI think the early 90's was a difficult time for bodybuilders, as the drug use was rampant because contest monies soared overnight (not unlike the pro peleton at similar time frame). Some top guys passed away in rather weird circumstances during that time, remember Munzer, Benaziza? Someone once remarked that it looked like a hospital backstage at pro level competitions. Drips everywhere. And there were federal laws against all this, but most of the top guys trained together (USA west coast) and got their "stuff" from the powers-that-be. The drug testing that was introduced was a farce; if you were not ass kissing you were done with. Again, similar to what we have today. And you do not talk out about it either, otherwise you will "break the code". We all know that this is not isolated to bodybuilding or cycling; it happens in most competitive sports. Anyway, here is something I found on the interwebs. Whether it is true or not I do not know, but it makes the cycling pro drug scene look a bit lame doesn't it? That he had space left in the tummy for normal food is beyond me. AFAIK Benaziza died of a lasix (diuretic) overdose. Yeah, I remember it well (Benaziza) simple massive dehydration, his organs just shut down. I agree with you, drugging was rife and not only did quite a number die of strange causes, but many were arrested and spent jail time for crimes under steroid rages, I remember quite a few, murders, severe assault etc. Most of the guys at that time were just the result of pharmaceutical assistance, it was impossible to ever reach those sizes naturally, probably the only half natural athlete of that time was Frank Zane, but the likes of Tom Platz, Sergio Olivier, Bertil Fox and so on were totally artificial, great to look at in a kind of outrageous way, but totally artificial. Strangely enough (or maybe not) many of the woman were just as bad, in one book I read they were saying many of the woman had taken so many male hormones their voices had deepened, they had no chance of ever having children and in some of the more severe cases their hands and feet were growing out of proportion to their (female) bodies. That said remember Rachael McLish? Absolutely gorgeous, the epitome of what body building was all about. There were few red blooded males around that time who didnt have a serious crush on her. Edited March 7, 2012 by GrumpyOldGuy
kosmonooit Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 It's on cycletorrents (if I may dare to mention that to the health benefit of the community) - interesting program. Covers other aspects of health such as stored fat, sugar levels etc.
BigGuy Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 That said remember Rachael McLish? Absolutely gorgeous, the epitome of what body building was all about. There were few red blooded males around that time who didnt have a serious crush on her. Yes, Rachel...extremely pretty lady, the first and about the only natural one ever. After her it just became a farce. Another favorite of mine was Shelley Beattie. Obviously also with a bit of help but she had the genetics and the face and did not overdo it too much. Sad that she took her own life.
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Yes, Rachel...extremely pretty lady, the first and about the only natural one ever. After her it just became a farce. Another favorite of mine was Shelley Beattie. Obviously also with a bit of help but she had the genetics and the face and did not overdo it too much. Sad that she took her own life. Did Shelly not die in a fire.? Was it suicide.? Or am I off track here, my brain is a bit fuzzy, too much coffee I think.
BigGuy Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Did Shelly not die in a fire.? Was it suicide.? Or am I off track here, my brain is a bit fuzzy, too much coffee I think. Nope it was suicide. She hanged herself. Geez GOG, I really went off track on this here thread. Sorry OP!
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Nope it was suicide. She hanged herself. Geez GOG, I really went off track on this here thread. Sorry OP! Okay, I must be thinking of someone else. Equally sorry on the Hi-jack.!
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