Eldron Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 stuff Ahhh what a paradise we could live in here in SA if people removed their brains from that useless storage department in their heads What? Me lighten up? Those that know me know it's impossible for me to darken down! Law shmaw, helmets shmelmets, red lights smed lights, Shimano uhhhh Shhhhhhhmano?
Eldron Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Simply obey the rules and you can keep your hard earned money. This is the smartest argument against breaking the law. Ever.
Grebel Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Agreed. My debate is about the statement that you deserve it if being caught speeding. In most cases yes but not always. Signage is a huge problem in this country and exploited by our beloved local authorities. Unfortunately, there is ALWYS going to be a spiedkop behind a camera gunning for your money around holiday time. It is our responsibility to make it as hard as possible for him to get it. If you do get caught, tell him you are a rectum stretcher if he asks you for your occupation... (See below) Bob, was driving home over the Golden Gate Bridge after spending a great day out on the ocean fishing. His catch, cleaned and filleted, was wrapped in newspaper on the passenger side floor. He was late getting home and was speeding. Wouldn't you know it, a cop jumped out, radar gun in hand, motioned him to the side of the bridge. Bob pulled over like a good citizen.The cop walked up to the window and said, "You know how fast you were going?"Bob thought for a second and said, "Uhh, 35?""SIXTY-SEVEN mph, son!" 67 mph in a 55 zone!" said the cop."But if you already knew, officer" replied Bob, "Why did you ask me?"Fuming over Bob's answer, the officer growled, in his normal sarcastic fashion, "That's speeding, and you're getting a ticket and a fine!" The cop took a good close look at Bob, in his stained fishing attire and said, "You don't even look like you have a job! Why, I've never seen anyone so scruffy in my entire life!"Bob answered, "I've got a job! I have a good, well-paying job!"The cop leaned in the window, smelling Bob's fish catch, said, "What kind of a job would a bum like you have?""I'm a rectum stretcher!" replied Bob."What did you say?" asked the patrolman."I'm a rectum stretcher!"The cop, scratching his head, asked, "What does a rectum stretcher do?"Bob explained, "People call me up and say they need to be stretched, so I go over to their house. I start with a couple of fingers, then a couple more and then one whole hand, then two. Then I slowly pull them farther and farther apart until it's a full six feet across."The cop, absorbed with these bizarre images in his mind, asked, "What the heck do you do with a six foot @$$hole?"Bob nonchalantly answered, "You give it a radar gun and stick it at the end of a bridge!" This is the smartest argument against breaking the law. Ever. Thanks. It's called common sense. Unfortunately not everybody has it though...
Big H* Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 snip snip Thanks. It's called common sense. Unfortunately not everybody has it though... Unless you have BRAINS....... or so some reckon!!!!!!!
Eldron Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Thanks. It's called common sense. Unfortunately not everybody has it though... Alas it's seems common sense is fast becoming uncommon sense...
Grebel Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Unless you have BRAINS....... or so some reckon!!!!!!! I work with a few people that have "BRAINS" but are sorely lacking in the common sense department... I though that Engineers knew how to apply logic. Turns out that isn't a prerequisite in the company I work for. Alas it's seems common sense is fast becoming uncommon sense... I hear you
LOOK695 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) On a slightly different note, when can a traffic officer take your license away and remove your vehicle license? I was threatened by cop last week because I hooted at him. He also said that they are above the law when it comes to the speed limit, meaning they don't have to abide by the speed limit Edited March 5, 2012 by LOOK695
TNT1 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 . He also said that they are above the law when it comes to the speed limit, meaning they don't have to abide by the speed limit Did you get a badge number or record the number plate of his vehicle? Lay a complaint at the ICD if you did.
LOOK695 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Did you get a badge number or record the number plate of his vehicle? Lay a complaint at the ICD if you did.No I did not, but Piet Retief is not that big, so getting it is no prob. They tend to hide behind the law and like to threaten. On 2 occasions I have witnessed GTI's speeding at 160km/h+ on the way to Ermelo and they were driving without flashing lights, so no emergency. The second time I saw the Golf parked at a shopping centre in Ermelo after having overtaken us at high speed from Piet Retief to Ermelo
Big H* Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) On a slightly different note, when can a traffic officer take your license away and remove your vehicle license? I was threatened by cop last week because I hooted at him. He also said that they are above the law when it comes to the speed limit, meaning they don't have to abide by the speed limit It is better to be nice with them. I was on my way back from my Son in Krugersdorp when I was stopped by Pretoria Metro Police. They are well known for their greedyness and all other wrong things. I greeted him cheerfully and made small talk. He started checking and came over and said my liscence is for the wrong vhicle. I got out full of trepidation and saw that we put the 4x4 trailer liscence on the Hilux. I expected the worst and started explaining. He simply said becuase I was friendly he will let me go but if he catches me again tomorrow and it is not corrected he will fine me for both misdemeanors. Phew!!!!!!!! Edited March 5, 2012 by eccentric1
TNT1 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 It is better to be nice with them. Agreed. To a point. If I'm threatened with illegal actions, or asked for a bribe, the niceness ends.
LOOK695 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 It is better to be nice with them. I was on my way back form my Son inKrugersdorp when I was stopped by Pretoria Metro Police. They are well known for their greedyness and all other wrong things. I greeted him cheerfully and made small talk. He started checking and came over and said my liscence is for the wrong vhicle. I got out full of trepidation and saw that we put the 4x4 trailer liscence on the Hilux. I expected the worst and started explaining. He simply said becuase I was friendly he will let me go but if he catches me again tomorrow and it is not corrected he will fine me for both misdemeanors. Phew!!!!!!!!Hear what you say, we are all humanbeings and make mistakes, but a cop can be "misliek" to put it mildley and then you get those who are still "human" if you get my drift. When I was in the army we were taught that respect is something you earn and not something you wear like a rank and uniform.
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 I drive around SA a lot and one thing I can say is that signage is a huge problem. And in a lot of cases I do think it is deliberate by the local authorities. It is very easy to miss a sign while legally passing a truck or something. Speed signs and other trafffic signs are often stolen or vandalised. And for you to come back and defend your case is expensive. So to sit on the side line and think it is your own fault for speeding is a bit one track minded in my opinion. I stick to within the speed limits but it is still easy to get caught speeding because of poor / vandalised signage. Then there are all the constructions sites which make life even more interresting. You can not believe how often I pass sections of road where they have done maintenance, and everything is cleared up but the 60 km/h sign was left behind 1 km down the road. Indeed, regimented remarks about been over the limit therefore guilty are nonsensical in my opinion, its often not as cut and dried as that, how do we know when the speed limit had been reduced if signs are missing or obscured or plain laying flat on the side of the road, how do you know when the town begins and ends, often limits change on approach and departure and demarcating lines are non existent, few people speed in the centre of towns, its on the outskirts of a town where the infringements take place and where speed limits change depending on the circumstances, usually 80 then 70 then 60, but sometimes its just 120 - 60 and a trap. As DD said most of it is pure entrapment, it has nothing to do with traffic control or regulation.
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 This is the smartest argument against breaking the law. Ever. Hmm, its not always as cut and dried as that.
TNT1 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Hmm, its not always as cut and dried as that. No. It is.
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