Tumbleweed Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 No, I'm not looking for a supplier. I had a drink or two with some "cycling figures" (who shall remain nameless) over the weekend, and heard an interesting aside. While some international riders were lusting after a South African steak, they apparently were scared to go out for one fearing that there may be clenbuterol in it. I know there are some farmers and vets here on the hub. Were their fears justified or not?
NotSoBigBen Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Like a 'tjop' I ask for a Spanish steak at Spur
Tumbleweed Posted March 20, 2012 Author Posted March 20, 2012 Like a 'tjop' I ask for a Spanish steak at Spur Stick to the tuna and crackers, mate!
brad890 Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Apparently from what we were told in lectures this year is that it is no longer on the market, as it was being abused by individuals for other uses, such as performance enhancement etc. In veterinary we used to use it for dystocia in cattle. But like many things, I'm sure there will still be some individuals and dodgy farmers that will use it or have it. Its like the aldicarb (temic or two step) which is also supposed to be off the market yet it is one of the poisons most used to kill dogs for break ins so I'd say the chance of eating a steak with it in is low, as the drug is no longer on the market (please someone correct me if I am wrong), but the chance maybe 1/100 is still there so ja. The second question is how much steak will one need to eat to attain enough of the drug to supposedly have been taking it? or fail a test?
Tumbleweed Posted March 20, 2012 Author Posted March 20, 2012 Brad, I also found it a bit paranoid considering the level of clen that would be found in meat.
Cav' Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Not a chance, i was on clenbuterol 3 years ago as part of asma treatments. Btw it didnt give me a performance boost while cycling. Just lost like 8kg lol. Because its cosumed orally the half life or time in your system is just as long as it will take your liver to process it out. May be a bit off your OP
Cav' Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Brad, I also found it a bit paranoid considering the level of clen that would be found in meat. Would be extremely small amount, the prescribed amount usually is 0.4 mg a day
brad890 Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) Not a chance, i was on clenbuterol 3 years ago as part of asma treatments.Btw it didnt give me a performance boost while cycling. Just lost like 8kg lol. Because its cosumed orally the half life or time in your system is just as long as it will take your liver to process it out. May be a bit off your OP Ok my mistake, so it appears it is still on the market, I know one can get it for livestock use in some overseas countries? But as far as I know as a veterinary drug its pretty hard to get , but does have a use (is a B2 agonist, which causes bronchodilation and smooth muscle relaxation) so for to to be totally off the market would be silly as medically it helps with conditions like asthma . as a side note, when it was used it required a 6 day withdrawal in cattle for meat and 5 days for milk. Edited March 20, 2012 by brad890
Cav' Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) I dont know all the vetenarian facts but i know its still easily available ( and no im not on it anymore lol) Edited March 20, 2012 by Cavendish
Cyclewizz Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 @Cavendish As you know Clenbuterol isn't used (without a priscription) to improve performance but to loose weight.
Cav' Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 I am 100% aware of that yes, It was suggested to me as a bronchodilator to force me from quiting cycling back in the 2009. and the weight loss -yup I know
Cav' Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 I must admit it gave me the rattles - was shaking like a Tembisa bus an hour after consumption , just wanted to start running somewhere
Cav' Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 No, I'm not looking for a supplier. I had a drink or two with some "cycling figures" (who shall remain nameless) over the weekend, and heard an interesting aside. While some international riders were lusting after a South African steak, they apparently were scared to go out for one fearing that there may be clenbuterol in it. I know there are some farmers and vets here on the hub. Were their fears justified or not? I would understand the international cyclist ( especially those who get tested ) to be extremely aware of what they eat -and where.
Paulst12 Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 It is readily available in SA... and yes it is a steroidAthletes use clenbuterol for two primary reasons:1. To increase metabolic speed. Clenbuterol is shown to directly stimulate fat cells and accelerate the breakdown of triglycerides to form free fatty acids.2. Clenbuterol is also known to increase strength and endurance of muscles by allowing more efficient transportation of oxygen into cells.
Cav' Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 It is readily available in SA... and yes it is a steroidAthletes use clenbuterol for two primary reasons:1. To increase metabolic speed. Clenbuterol is shown to directly stimulate fat cells and accelerate the breakdown of triglycerides to form free fatty acids.2. Clenbuterol is also known to increase strength and endurance of muscles by allowing more efficient transportation of oxygen into cells. Clenbuterol is not an anabolic steroid but a beta-2-sympatomimetic.If you dont believe me google away
Cyclewizz Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Clenbuterol is not an anabolic steroid but a beta-2-sympatomimetic.If you dont believe me google away I'm with you on this one.
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