Unclerico Posted June 13, 2012 Share On a DH bike?? That might explain it. They more AM rims if I am not mistaken Thats what i thought as well. But when I contacted Stans direct via email they told me that the flows are strong enough for DH when built well. Gee Atherton has been running them with saint decals on.All I can say is, that is probably why he had a couple wheel mechanicals last season. I would understand them dinging but to fold one railing a turn really shows how weak they are. I will never run them again and will never recommend them to anyone for anything but xc/light trail riding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 13, 2012 Share Thats what i thought as well. But when I contacted Stans direct via email they told me that the flows are strong enough for DH when built well. Gee Atherton has been running them with saint decals on.All I can say is, that is probably why he had a couple wheel mechanicals last season. I would understand them dinging but to fold one railing a turn really shows how weak they are. I will never run them again and will never recommend them to anyone for anything but xc/light trail riding Aaah! I always wondered what Gee's "Saint" wheels were comprised of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted June 13, 2012 Share They may be tougher than one would think, but Crow makes an excellent point: Any lighter and the fear of denting creeps back in.. stay clear of fear! Currently I am running 610g rims at 31.7mm wide. Heavy and wide. But I don't doubt for a second what they can handle - nothing beats riding with confidence... The Nukeproof's rim's claimed weight is 570g at 29mm wide... a little lighter... The Flows are 470g per rim and 28mm wide... Even if they ARE tough enough, I am sure I'll start worrying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePubSA Posted June 13, 2012 Share Bit heavy & old,but rekon bombproof mtx 33 is what ima order this week.Just tryna decide on hubs & spokes.Not shure how to work out what length spokes i need.Was gonna go mtx 39 but the weight is harsh,but 39 wide .Overkill but thats how i like my gear strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 13, 2012 Share How about upgrading your riding FlowJo by contacting a guy like Chris Nixon for riding skill coaching ..... it will make you smoother, faster and therefore lighter on your equipment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclerico Posted June 13, 2012 Share How about upgrading your riding FlowJo by contacting a guy like Chris Nixon for riding skill coaching ..... it will make you smoother, faster and therefore lighter on your equipment?I have raced DH Nationals with Chris for the past 5 years. I previously had a set of mavic 823 rims on ringle' hubs,ran them for 2 seasons without a single ding .Got the flows with the new bike. I have gone back to mavic 823's on I9 J-Bend hubs RossW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclerico Posted June 13, 2012 Share I have built up the wheels for my Sukuma. Not the lightest but they will be super strong.XT Hub 15mm frontXT rear 12x142Mavic 823 ust rimsHutchinson 2.3 tubeless Piranhas. got them super cheap but I will look at getting some schwalbe hans dampfs later on in the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 13, 2012 Share I have raced DH Nationals with Chris for the past 5 years. I previously had a set of mavic 823 rims on ringle' hubs,ran them for 2 seasons without a single ding .Got the flows with the new bike. I have gone back to mavic 823's on I9 J-Bend hubs sounds nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted June 14, 2012 Share Looks like my rear rim and hub are on their way out... so at the moment, my thinking is: 1. Nukeproof wheelset2. Nukeproof rims - existing front hub (which I think is a Giant, 15mm), with either Nukeproof or Hope rear hub - hoping to use existing spokes It all depends on budget. Time to do sums How do I figure out if my existing spokes will fit the new rim and hub? That would help my sums a lot! Edited June 14, 2012 by the_wes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted September 12, 2012 Share Let's revive this thread, shall we... look what's about to be ordered Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclerico Posted September 13, 2012 Share Ordered a set of these last night for the Sukuma, going on a special on crc for less 56% easton haven 2011 alu Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted September 13, 2012 Share very nice Uncle Rico! very nice indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted September 13, 2012 Share Ordered a set of these last night for the Sukuma, going on a special on crc for less 56% easton haven 2011 alu Oooooo very very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydenWilson Posted September 13, 2012 Share time for the noooob question: what difference do the hubs really make? I understand in terms of things like style points and different spoke numbers etc but has anyone managed to damage a hub? if so, how do they fail? rip the spokes out of the hub? bugger up the bearings inside the hub? I am thinking new wheel thoughts and i thought the rim was probably the most nb bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted September 13, 2012 Share time for the noooob question: what difference do the hubs really make? I understand in terms of things like style points and different spoke numbers etc but has anyone managed to damage a hub? if so, how do they fail? rip the spokes out of the hub? bugger up the bearings inside the hub? I am thinking new wheel thoughts and i thought the rim was probably the most nb bit? Front hub... not so much. Rear hub however can make quite a difference. I've had a Quandro rear hub totally fail to engage. And my jump bike has Nukeproof generator wheels with a rear hub that has 1 slipping engagement point. Luckily I'm aware of it, and it is on a mess around bike. But if one wasn't aware and they stood up to pedal hard, a slipping hub (even just 1 engagement point) could result in the end of one's family tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydenWilson Posted September 13, 2012 Share Ah that makes a healthy amount of sense. Do things like impacts when jumping/dropping or hitting rocks damage the engagement points? or is it more of a luck of the draw type thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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