Rebuilding my AM / trail rig

[Unclerico]

On a DH bike?? That might explain it. They more AM rims if I am not mistaken

Thats what i thought as well. But when I contacted Stans direct via email they told me that the flows are strong enough for DH when built well. Gee Atherton has been running them with saint decals on.All I can say is, that is probably why he had a couple wheel mechanicals last season. I would understand them dinging but to fold one railing a turn really shows how weak they are. I will never run them again and will never recommend them to anyone for anything but xc/light trail riding

[patches]

Thats what i thought as well. But when I contacted Stans direct via email they told me that the flows are strong enough for DH when built well. Gee Atherton has been running them with saint decals on.All I can say is, that is probably why he had a couple wheel mechanicals last season. I would understand them dinging but to fold one railing a turn really shows how weak they are. I will never run them again and will never recommend them to anyone for anything but xc/light trail riding

 

Aaah! I always wondered what Gee's "Saint" wheels were comprised of.

[wesley_r]

They may be tougher than one would think, but Crow makes an excellent point:

 

Any lighter and the fear of denting creeps back in.. stay clear of fear!

 

Currently I am running 610g rims at 31.7mm wide. Heavy and wide. But I don't doubt for a second what they can handle - nothing beats riding with confidence...

 

The Nukeproof's rim's claimed weight is 570g at 29mm wide... a little lighter...

 

The Flows are 470g per rim and 28mm wide... Even if they ARE tough enough, I am sure I'll start worrying....

[ThePubSA]

Bit heavy & old,but rekon bombproof mtx 33 is what ima order this week.Just tryna decide on hubs & spokes.Not shure how to work out what length spokes i need.Was gonna go mtx 39 but the weight is harsh,but 39 wide .Overkill but thats how i like my gear strong

[Hairy]

How about upgrading your riding FlowJo by contacting a guy like Chris Nixon for riding skill coaching ..... it will make you smoother, faster and therefore lighter on your equipment?

[Unclerico]

How about upgrading your riding FlowJo by contacting a guy like Chris Nixon for riding skill coaching ..... it will make you smoother, faster and therefore lighter on your equipment?

I have raced DH Nationals with Chris for the past 5 years. I previously had a set of mavic 823 rims on ringle' hubs,ran them for 2 seasons without a single ding .Got the flows with the new bike. I have gone back to mavic 823's on I9 J-Bend hubs

[Unclerico]

I have built up the wheels for my Sukuma. Not the lightest but they will be super strong.

XT Hub 15mm front

XT rear 12x142

Mavic 823 ust rims

Hutchinson 2.3 tubeless Piranhas. got them super cheap but I will look at getting some schwalbe hans dampfs later on in the year

[Hairy]

I have raced DH Nationals with Chris for the past 5 years. I previously had a set of mavic 823 rims on ringle' hubs,ran them for 2 seasons without a single ding .Got the flows with the new bike. I have gone back to mavic 823's on I9 J-Bend hubs

 

sounds nice

[wesley_r]

Looks like my rear rim and hub are on their way out... so at the moment, my thinking is:

 

1. Nukeproof wheelset

2. Nukeproof rims - existing front hub (which I think is a Giant, 15mm), with either Nukeproof or Hope rear hub - hoping to use existing spokes

 

It all depends on budget. Time to do sums

 

How do I figure out if my existing spokes will fit the new rim and hub? That would help my sums a lot!

Edited June 14, 2012 by the_wes

[wesley_r]

Let's revive this thread, shall we... look what's about to be ordered

[Unclerico]

Ordered a set of these last night for the Sukuma, going on a special on crc for less 56% easton haven 2011 alu

[patches]

very nice Uncle Rico! very nice indeed!

[Hairy]

Ordered a set of these last night for the Sukuma, going on a special on crc for less 56% easton haven 2011 alu

 

Oooooo very very nice!

[HaydenWilson]

time for the noooob question: what difference do the hubs really make? I understand in terms of things like style points and different spoke numbers etc but has anyone managed to damage a hub? if so, how do they fail? rip the spokes out of the hub? bugger up the bearings inside the hub? I am thinking new wheel thoughts and i thought the rim was probably the most nb bit?

[patches]

time for the noooob question: what difference do the hubs really make? I understand in terms of things like style points and different spoke numbers etc but has anyone managed to damage a hub? if so, how do they fail? rip the spokes out of the hub? bugger up the bearings inside the hub? I am thinking new wheel thoughts and i thought the rim was probably the most nb bit?

 

Front hub... not so much. Rear hub however can make quite a difference.

 

I've had a Quandro rear hub totally fail to engage. And my jump bike has Nukeproof generator wheels with a rear hub that has 1 slipping engagement point.

 

Luckily I'm aware of it, and it is on a mess around bike. But if one wasn't aware and they stood up to pedal hard, a slipping hub (even just 1 engagement point) could result in the end of one's family tree

[HaydenWilson]

Ah that makes a healthy amount of sense. Do things like impacts when jumping/dropping or hitting rocks damage the engagement points? or is it more of a luck of the draw type thing?