JTK Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 Nothing....but....its not quite a Santa Cruz is it?it is/was never supposed to be... In my argument I have been comparing same new price bracket bikes with simular spec components and they different ways in which they loose value which does ot make sense to me...
Guest Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Nothing....but....its not quite a Santa Cruz is it? Why not? The fact that SC frames are expensive by default and by entry level, doesnt make it better than GT. Compare a R50k GT to a R50k SC... GT aren't really "new" to bike manufacturing....you know?
Smolly Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Where's the face palm button when you need it!!! Kranswurm 1
Kranswurm Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Why not?The fact that SC frames are expensive by default and by entry level, doesnt make it better than GT.Compare a R50k GT to a R50k SC... GT aren't really "new" to bike manufacturing....you know? Do they make a 50K GT?? Andro 1
Guest Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 To add: If Mr Stander & the other top 10 riders were sponsored by Dunlop, everyone would want a Dunlop Bike. Immediately Dunlop's 2nd hand value rises, and Spez becomes the new brand nobody wants. It perception as well. Are any of us really qualified to comment on the manufacturing processes and which is better? Have any of us been to the factories to see what goes on and then make our decisions about what to buy? ...mmmh... Andro and JTK 2
sometime Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Nothing....but....its not quite a Santa Cruz is it? Care to compare how many of the frames you wouldn't touch with a bargepole, compete on the various World Cup circuits vs how many Santa Cruz's do? Care to compare how many podium finishes (over the same period) each have received in the above races compared to Santa Cruz's podium finishes? TopFuel and JTK 2
JTK Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 To add: If Mr Stander & the other top 10 riders were sponsored by Dunlop, everyone would want a Dunlop Bike.Immediately Dunlop's 2nd hand value rises, and Spez becomes the new brand nobody wants. It perception as well. Are any of us really qualified to comment on the manufacturing processes and which is better? Have any of us been to the factories to see what goes on and then make our decisions about what to buy? ...mmmh...KKK I think you may be presenting me with the best argument It is all about perception (within the same price bracket though - dont compare a Makro dunlop with a TOR Spez)
Kranswurm Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 To add: If Mr Stander & the other top 10 riders were sponsored by Dunlop, everyone would want a Dunlop Bike.Immediately Dunlop's 2nd hand value rises, and Spez becomes the new brand nobody wants. It perception as well. Are any of us really qualified to comment on the manufacturing processes and which is better? Have any of us been to the factories to see what goes on and then make our decisions about what to buy? ...mmmh... Maybe we are and maybe we have....
Guest Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Maybe we are and maybe we have.... THEN: By all means, inform the rest of us about each and every manufacturer that you would buy, and why, opposed to the other you wouldn't and why.Nobody is too old to be schooled.
Kranswurm Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Care to compare how many of the frames you wouldn't touch with a bargepole, compete on the various World Cup circuits vs how many Santa Cruz's do? Care to compare how many podium finishes (over the same period) each have received in the above races compared to Santa Cruz's podium finishes? As I don't fall into the racing snake bracket and have no intention of standing on the podium,and lastly am not influenced what Dirty Hippo rides.....I don't really care you see.
Kranswurm Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 THEN: By all means, inform the rest of us about each and every manufacturer that you would buy, and why, opposed to the other you wouldn't and why.Nobody is too old to be schooled. Too late..going home to watch TDF finish.Just go out and buy the latest What Mountain Bike and the latest Mountain Bike UK and they will tell you more than you need to know.Certainly more than you will hear on the Hub
patches Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 what's wrong with GT? Would love to hear. it ain't no Morewood hahaha! DMD 1 and Kranswurm 2
JTK Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 As I don't fall into the racing snake bracket and have no intention of standing on the podium,and lastly am not influenced what Dirty Hippo rides.....I don't really care you see.come now, you have the oppertunaty to re-shape society as we know it. There will be only one manufacturer left in each price bracket once we are done as the rest does not mafacture frames up to that quality. Companies will go out of business and economies may collapse. We will all ride the same bike. Parts will be cheap and we can go race together with all carrying one spare component of a given part of the bike as all the replacement parts will be the same. Just think of the service you will be performing
Smolly Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Let's throw this out there! When you buy a good scotch, it still has the same amount of alcohol as a bottle of first watch. You drink it slower as you enjoy it more, but in the end you are in the same place as you would be if you drank you FW with a pinched nose out of a shooter glassSame type of product, different process of making it, but a different way of enjoying. And obviously a different price. One appreciates, the other, well, gets downed at the same value even after 5 years. outoftowner 1
sometime Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 As I don't fall into the racing snake bracket and have no intention of standing on the podium,and lastly am not influenced what Dirty Hippo rides.....I don't really care you see. So your assertion that Santa Cruz is superior to the other brands mentioned is nothing more than you being a brand snob.
JTK Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 Dunno smolster. That is still not apples with apples. What I am asking is why would the exact same scotch that is bottled in defferent bottles have different values down the line. Exact same content just different bottles...
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