Thug Posted August 10, 2012 Share I wanted a cheapish set of hydraulics for my Singlespeed earlier this year and bought a set. Can't compare to my Hopes but they're perfect for the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePubSA Posted August 10, 2012 Share OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG just saw they have gone cheaper....Think my XT's might be on the way Shimano XT M785 Disc Brake http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gifhttp://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gifhttp://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gifhttp://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gif Avg: 4.8/5 Read Reviews From 887.11 ZAR RRP 1429.90 ZAR Save 38% Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted August 10, 2012 Share OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG just saw they have gone cheaper....Think my XT's might be on the way Shimano XT M785 Disc Brake http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gifhttp://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gifhttp://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gifhttp://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Interface/Icons/ReviewStarOn.gif Avg: 4.8/5 Read Reviews From 887.11 ZAR RRP 1429.90 ZAR Save 38% Bargain ThePubSA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted August 10, 2012 Share Hang on a mo'. "Learning cure on" Just exactly how do you "rate" brakes ? Either they stop you or they dont ? Or am I missing something ? How could one set be better than another ? SUrely with all the technhology around today brakes from different companies are more or less on the same par as they all use hydraulics ? Will the average Jo cyclist really notice the difference ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 10, 2012 Share Nope, and hell yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 10, 2012 Share To expand on that...m Different braking systems have different efficiency ratings due to the folwing variations FLuid reservoir designBladder designInternal chamfers / profiles of same elementsCablingPiston designPad designMaterials usedTolerances And as with anything mechanical, the smallest variance in any of these would make a huge difference in how the item operates. Edited August 10, 2012 by cptmayhem ThePubSA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted August 10, 2012 Share Hang on a mo'. "Learning cure on" Just exactly how do you "rate" brakes ? Either they stop you or they dont ? Or am I missing something ? How could one set be better than another ? SUrely with all the technhology around today brakes from different companies are more or less on the same par as they all use hydraulics ? Will the average Jo cyclist really notice the difference ?Do the test - 1. Take a bike with juicy 3's down a rough technical downhill 2. Now do the above with xt's That will answer your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePubSA Posted August 10, 2012 Share Hang on a mo'. "Learning cure on" Just exactly how do you "rate" brakes ? Either they stop you or they dont ? Or am I missing something ? How could one set be better than another ? SUrely with all the technhology around today brakes from different companies are more or less on the same par as they all use hydraulics ? Will the average Jo cyclist really notice the difference ?Bite, modulation & most important easiness of bleeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted August 10, 2012 Share Bite, modulation & most important easiness of bleeding bite I get, but modulation ? Do the test - 1. Take a bike with juicy 3's down a rough technical downhill2. Now do the above with xt's That will answer your question I ride with juicy 7's, and they work exactly as needed, slow me down when I need it, and stop when I need it (occasionally operator error results in non stopping when needed), so they are fine. I also ride a bike with deore breaks along more or less the same and they also work exactly right, doing everything needed. I get the ease of servicing and break pad replacement, but at the level I ride, I dont understand the difference in the rating, hence me asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePubSA Posted August 10, 2012 Share bite I get, but modulation ? Modulation is the ability to apply different amounts ofbraking power easily. IOW, you pull the lever a little, youslow down a little, you pull it a bit more, you slow down abit more, and so on, until the wheel locks. Some brakingsystems are more prone to be either not slowing enough ortoo much, where good modulation allows you to control this. IME, disks provide better modulation, which enables you toapply more braking without locking the wheel. I don't thinkit is a compromise as any braking system will enable you tolock your wheel(s) if you pull hard enough, which is notgood for you or for the trails.or Modulation is the process of a driver accurately controlling the amount of brake power required without locking the wheel. Brake modulation is having the ability to consistently increase and decrease the amount of bite from your brake pads at will Slowbee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted August 10, 2012 Share bite I get, but modulation ? I ride with juicy 7's, and they work exactly as needed, slow me down when I need it, and stop when I need it (occasionally operator error results in non stopping when needed), so they are fine. I also ride a bike with deore breaks along more or less the same and they also work exactly right, doing everything needed. I get the ease of servicing and break pad replacement, but at the level I ride, I dont understand the difference in the rating, hence me asking.For the average rider those do suffice i agree. The only reason some people put xt,hopes,r1's on their bikes is the fact that they have full xt,xo,xx gruppo's - and it would just be wrong to fit average brakes. Some would say its the difference between braking with one finger (xt's) and using two or more fingers (lower spec) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted August 10, 2012 Share Thanks Cav Cav' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR ◣◢ Posted August 10, 2012 Share I run Hope Race on one bike and Deore on the other. Massive difference in brake force and brake control. The Hopes are single finger setup and has huge amounts of stopping power with very little input needed. The Deores have more than enough stopping power but very little control. The power is on or off. Grab a good handful of lever and the Reba will dive down hard into its travel. Also fades quite badly on long downhills. I like both but wouldnt mind replacing the Deores with Hope Tech X2. The 650B will also run Hope Race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted August 10, 2012 Share It is like holding a cup with your 2 fingers or your whole hand.Both work ,but it is not the same DR ◣◢ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR ◣◢ Posted August 10, 2012 Share 2 fingers 1 cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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