LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[Helpmytrap]

The Wolverine diet: How Hugh Jackman went from slim to super

In his bulking up phase: breakfast, "A large bowl of oatmeal with cinnamon, six scrambled eggs with ham and spinach, two slices of rye bread toasted with peanut butter."

 

How does one have space for 6 eggs, never mind all the rest that goes with it.

[htone]

Ooh ah eh... surely he has not "supplemented" during the bulk-up phase....

[htone]

Here you go, sir. Spent the afternoon putting this together for you .

 

I have copied this to the dropbox folder as well.

 

@tombeej - huge ask again - can you perhaps supply approximate dimensions of that box, just so we can get a perspective of where that heater shelf is relative to the box size, asseblief ?

[Helpmytrap]

I'm making dinner tonight, pork belly seasoned with salt, pepper and coriander on a bed of red onions. Still not sure what other veggies go well will it.

[Topwine]

I'm making dinner tonight, pork belly seasoned with salt, pepper and coriander on a bed of red onions. Still not sure what other veggies go well will it.

 

You might want to reconsider because pork belly fat (lard) contains a lot of PUFA which is no good.

[tombeej]

You might want to reconsider because pork belly fat (lard) contains a lot of PUFA which is no good.

 

Ja, I've been reading up on the amount of O6 PUFA in meat, and pork doesn't fare too well. The other bad one is poultry (much to my disappointment). Naturally chickens live on grains as their staple, and commercial chicken is force-fed the stuff. From what I understand, it's better to eat lean chicken (leave the skin), as most of the PUFA is found in the fat. Same with pork - rather enjoy it lean.

 

Some reading on the subject: http://180degreeheal...e-concentration

 

"... as long as vegetable oil is out of the diet almost 100%, this is not something to really get your panties in a wad about".

Edited August 7, 2013 by tombeej

[tombeej]

I have copied this to the dropbox folder as well.

 

@tombeej - huge ask again - can you perhaps supply approximate dimensions of that box, just so we can get a perspective of where that heater shelf is relative to the box size, asseblief ?

 

I didn't follow any formula, I just winged it. Every box is a different size - depends on the maker - I don't think it matters the ratio size of each level, just as long as you have heat and up-draft.

 

For example, here's a nice compact desktop box from Oz...

[Wet Ears]

You might want to reconsider because pork belly fat (lard) contains a lot of PUFA which is no good.

 

Would this include my much loved pork crackling chips? I think I know the answer!

[tombeej]

While we are on the topic of making homemade HF biltong (correct name is pemmican)...

 

Since we are eating like 80 - 90% fat, consider how much we are now exposing ourselves to v.high levels of Omega 6 PUFAs if we eat this stuff every day.

 

More reason to make billies from grass-fed beef.

 

Here's a lekker list of high-, medium- and low-O6 food sources:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/archive/index.php/t-408392.html

[tombeej]

See how well lamb fares (edit: or doesn't)...

Edited August 7, 2013 by tombeej

[htone]

I'm making dinner tonight, pork belly seasoned with salt, pepper and coriander on a bed of red onions. Still not sure what other veggies go well will it.

 

One of my favourite dishes - I buy the pork belly with ribs as this is usually cheaper than the de-ribbed version. We eat pork about once a week, so I am not getting my knickers in a knot about to PUFA's and O6 as my diet is pretty much devoid of any other PUFA sources...

 

I stick the pork rib in the oven at about 140deg C for 3 hours, then crank up the heat for the last 10 min or so do harden up that crackling a bit. What I normally do while this is going is to make a parcel of "oven vegetables" (ja, I know, "oondgroente"... not very imaginative) which would be e.g. broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, baby marrows, etc - lace that with some Nomu One for All spices and healthy wad of butter and garlic and close it up in a tinfoil "parcel", put that in the oven for the last hour or so and you are good to go !

[tombeej]

A little perspective though:

 

You'll have to eat 1.230kg of chicken+skin to ingest the same amount of O6 PUFAs as there is in 100g of sunflower seeds.

 

It's all relative.

Edited August 7, 2013 by tombeej

[Topwine]

One of my favourite dishes - I buy the pork belly with ribs as this is usually cheaper than the de-ribbed version. We eat pork about once a week, so I am not getting my knickers in a knot about to PUFA's and O6 as my diet is pretty much devoid of any other PUFA sources...

 

 

from the Peatarion.com forum discussions:

 

 

Ray has an article on his site called "Unsaturated Vegetable Oils: Toxic"

 

"A small amount of these oils won't kill you. It is the proportion of them in your diet that matters. A little extra vitamin E (such as 100 units per day) will take care of an occasional American restaurant meal. Based on animal studies, it would take a teaspoonful per day of corn or soy oil added to a fat-free diet to significantly increase our risk of cancer. Unfortunately, it is impossible to devise a fat-free diet outside of a laboratory. Vegetables, grains, nuts, fish and meats all naturally contain large amounts of these oils, and the extra oil used in cooking becomes a more serious problem." Ray Peat, PhD.

 

"Ultimately, all systems of the body are harmed by an excess of these oils."

"Unsaturated fats cause aging, clotting, inflammation, cancer, and weight gain. Avoid foods which contain the polyunsaturated oils, such as corn, soy, safflower, flax, cottonseed, canola, peanut, and sesame oil."

 

"Pork is now fed corn and soy beans, so lard is usually as toxic as those oils; use only lean pork."

 

"Fish oils are usually highly unsaturated; "dry" types of fish, and shellfish, used once or twice a week, are good. Avoid cod liver oil."

 

"Use vitamin E."

"Use coconut oil, butter, and olive oil."

 

"Unsaturated fats intensify estrogen's harmful effects."

 

"Vegetable oil is recognized as a drug for knocking out the immune system."

 

"50 years ago, paints and varnishes were made of soy oil, safflower oil, and linseed (flax seed) oil. Then chemists learned how to make paint from petroleum, which was much cheaper. As a result, the huge seed oil industry found its crop increasingly hard to sell. Around the same time, farmers were experimenting with poisons to make their pigs get fatter with less food, and they discovered that corn and soy beans served the purpose, in a legal way. The crops that had been grown for the paint industry came to be used for animal food. Then these foods that made animals get fat cheaply came to be promoted as foods for humans, but they had to direct attention away from the fact that they are very fattening. The "cholesterol" focus was just one of the marketing tools used by the oil industry. Unfortunately it is the one that has lasted the longest, even after the unsaturated oils were proven to cause heart disease as well as cancer.."

-Ray Peat PhD.

[Helpmytrap]

htone, how on earth did you manage to test deep purple day in and day out. I've been hovering at ++ pretty consistently except directly after my hard-ish ride this afternoon where I tested + which my assumption is that my body burned enough ketones during exercise to lower the "concentration." Point being, I eat 20-25g carbs daily but never test deep purple. Maybe it will come with time?

[htone]

htone, how on earth did you manage to test deep purple day in and day out. I've been hovering at ++ pretty consistently except directly after my hard-ish ride this afternoon where I tested + which my assumption is that my body burned enough ketones during exercise to lower the "concentration." Point being, I eat 20-25g carbs daily but never test deep purple. Maybe it will come with time?

Patience, young Skywalker....

 

My carbs are now well below 50g a day, my BG tests at between 5.0 and 5.2 throughout the day and ketones are above 0.5 mmol (+++ on the stix), averaging about 8 hours of training per week - if in your case your stix show less than +++ it is indeed because you are burning ketones as fuel - remember that you are measuring excess or wasted ketones in your urine.

[Helpmytrap]

There is hope! The bottom corner was deep purple while the rest was between ++ and +++. Close enough.