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Just wanted to compare some of your guys figures if recorded on the hill up to Block House known as Plumb Pudding or Dead Man's hill.

 

I clock 182 bbm in Granny and 186 in 2nd Gear - Age = 42

 

Just wondering why my HR seems to be climbing more but my times are comming slightly down. Is it fitness or just pushing harder?

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HR is individual - and in this case most likely indicative of your effort related to yourself. I got in the high 190's over the weekend - nothing as hectic as I presume Block house climb is. (If you want the precise value, I'll go check, but that irrelevant in my mind.) But last weekend I did not go that hard and recorded less. I'm no fitter, I just pushed harder.

 

Measuring HR relative to somebody else means zilch. I've ridden with guys who have very low max HR's - and rides the wheels off me!

 

Oh and if it's worth anything - I'm 43, so there goes all age-based HR calculation theories. :whistling: Set your HR zones up via Karvonen formula and... go ride the bike!

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Plumpudding hill, heartrate, ha ha, if you have a heart rate monitor worth anything, it should scream stuff like "you trying to kill me?" or "stop for the life of me". :D

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Just wanted to compare some of your guys figures if recorded on the hill up to Block House known as Plumb Pudding or Dead Man's hill.

 

I clock 182 bbm in Granny and 186 in 2nd Gear - Age = 42

 

Just wondering why my HR seems to be climbing more but my times are comming slightly down. Is it fitness or just pushing harder?

 

That's why he who spins wins....

 

Out of interest what is the time difference for the climb between the 2 efforts and where the weather conditions (wind and air temperature) the same?

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DJR - my monitor is already beeping after 180 so I have to mute the alarm so as not to annoy other riders or telll them how much I am suffering.

 

Hence my question to others who ride this little slope - just an interest factor, nothing scientific

 

 

Swiss-Van - The conditions are the same between testing HRates in the two different gears - but obviosely not after each other as once a day on that slope is enough for me

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DJR - my monitor is already beeping after 180 so I have to mute the alarm so as not to annoy other riders or telll them how much I am suffering.

 

Oh, DJR knows all about that too... :whistling:

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Riding plumpudding from the city side, I always get to my maximum heart rate, even if I go slowly. It is just so steep that if I don't push it, I simply come to a standstil.

 

So, my answer is this: Whatever your maximum is, that is normal for plumpudding, no matter how fit you are.

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Oh, DJR knows all about that too... :whistling:

 

:D Yes, I was surprized with how long my riding buddies took before complaining about my HR monitor screaming for mercy while my high frequency deafness allowed me to ride in peace and quiet. :D

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DJR - my monitor is already beeping after 180 so I have to mute the alarm so as not to annoy other riders or telll them how much I am suffering.

 

Hence my question to others who ride this little slope - just an interest factor, nothing scientific

 

 

Swiss-Van - The conditions are the same between testing HRates in the two different gears - but obviosely not after each other as once a day on that slope is enough for me

 

And the time diffs for the 2 I.e. how much quicker was the one than the other?

 

Just interested to see if the bigger gear was quicker and by how much

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HR is individual - and in this case most likely indicative of your effort related to yourself. I got in the high 190's over the weekend - nothing as hectic as I presume Block house climb is. (If you want the precise value, I'll go check, but that irrelevant in my mind.) But last weekend I did not go that hard and recorded less. I'm no fitter, I just pushed harder.

 

Measuring HR relative to somebody else means zilch. I've ridden with guys who have very low max HR's - and rides the wheels off me!

 

Oh and if it's worth anything - I'm 43, so there goes all age-based HR calculation theories. :whistling: Set your HR zones up via Karvonen formula and... go ride the bike!

Interesting fact; I had an argument with my physician during my last check-up. He was adamant that it was impossible that my Max HR was 192 as I was 44yrs old. During the "stress test" I hardly broke a sweat and was idling at about 156bpm even that didn't convince him. He said that there must be something wrong with my HRM :huh:

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Stig, they also just believe what they've been taught. And despite all of us doing it, the majority of people going to a doc does not discuss HR's with him. They're OCD if they know what their resting HR is and blissfully unaware of whatever their max might be. And even us that do ride with HRM's, I would guess we're in the vast minority to have such a high HR max. (And it means absolutely nothing ito potential performance or lack thereof, it's just how it is.) Fortunately I have spoken about this to Jeroen a bit, plus later found a local doc who is also a cyclist - and knows that this does happen. I think if I were to tell my regular GP that, he'd faint.

 

When I started off, my buddy that got me into cycling was also amazed, we swopped HRM's for a ride or two just to make sure it's not the HRM! He initially also though I was bloody unfit for a guy that (at the time) played so much squash... :blush:

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