A new Frame?

[WorcesterWheelers]

I am looking at the bmc......bike porn I tell ya

What size BMC?

There's a guy in Cape Town, that's been desperate to sell his since winning it in last years TdF competition.

I think it's a size 56, and he's come down to about R30,000 with Mavic Ksyrium SL's and Campy Record.

[Laffite]

Hi. Ek het een van daai "Entry Level Goed' waarvan Amoryn praat, en glo my dit werk soos 'n bom. Sukkel meer om die gewig om die maag af te skud as die van die raam. Baie moeiliker, maar baie baie goedkoper.smileys/smiley17.gif

[WorcesterWheelers]

Hi. Ek het een van daai "Entry Level Goed' waarvan Amoryn praat' date=' en glo my dit werk soos 'n bom. Sukkel meer om die gewig om die maag af te skud as die van die raam. Baie moeiliker, maar baie baie goedkoper.[img']smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]

Al rede hoekom ek nog nie die Giant of die R3 gekoop het nie, is omdat ek self ook eers nog 5kg kan afskud op my eie "frame", maar AI! eet is darem net te lekker smileys/smiley19.gif

[CVANC]

WW - dit sal nie deug nie. Ek hoop jy skud jou 5kg vinnig af dat ek kan sien hoe die Giant of R3 lyk. smileys/smiley17.gif

[amoryns]

WW.....Ek soek 'n 46 of 48...small raam...ja sukkel altyd om die regte raam te kry. Ry op die oomblik 'n 46. Ek hou nie van die groen en swart bmc raam nie...kyk na so matt silver kleur

[stringbean]

Checked with my local cervelo dealer,seems like the prices quoted on the web are excluding vat.C3 still a great bike but doesn't seem to be put together as well as the specialized.I would go with Spez and save a few grand.

[Christie]

Lateral Bending Stiffness & STW (higher is better):

 

 

Frame<?:namespace prefix = o />	Material	Size	Weight	Stiffness	STW
Cerv?lo R3	Carbon	56	2.02	238.90	118.3
Scott CR1	Carbon	56	2.14	183.70	85.8
Giant TCR Advanced	Carbon	L	2.28	145.70	63.9
La <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Pierre 999 X-Lite	Carbon	M	2.50	149.70	59.9
Cannondale Al CAAD9	Aluminum	56	3.03	180.70	59.6
Specialized S-Works Tarmac	Carbon	56	2.43	135.60	55.8
Trek OCLV (1999)	Carbon	56	2.14	118.00	55.1
ISAAC	Carbon	55.5	2.46	132.70	53.9
Cannondale Synapse	Carbon	56	2.67	136.00	50.9
Litespeed Ghisallo	Titanium	M	1.71	81.40	47.6
Schwinn Al Fastback (2001)	Aluminum	L	3.13	134.00	42.8
Schwinn Circuit 853 (1999)	Steel	56	4.10	111.50	27.2
Mondonico Nemo (2005)	Steel	57	4.50	114.70	25.5

 

Just note' date=' the Giant tested is the normal one, not the ISP (integrated seat post). But from these stats, the P3 wins hands down. [img']smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]smileys/smiley32.gif

Interesting info Worchester. Where did it come from?

I think of the current frames, The BMC SLC would compare well with the Cervelo R3 as far as BB stifness goes.

I would guess the integrated seatpost Giant won't be much more stiff than the previous one. Lateral stiffness is very dependant on down tube, bottom part of the seat tube and chainstay design, and their interface at the bb.

My opinion on the Cervelo's: Great to see a new company making waves in the bike business. The R3 is not a pretty frame imo. The square down tube, oversize chain stays and tiny seat stays borders on ugly! I prefer the looks of the Soloist carbon. The Giant frame is a beaty, and the integrated seat tube looks very nice.

The LBS said that they can't get Cervelo frames, there is some problem getting stock. So if are set on getting one, perhaps you'll need some patience? 

Christie38817.3752430556

[WorcesterWheelers]

[quote name=Christie

Interesting info Worchester. Where did it come from?

I think of the current frames' date=' The BMC SLC would compare well with the Cervelo R3 as far as BB stifness goes.

I would guess the integrated seatpost Giant won't be much more stiff than the previous one. Lateral stiffness is very dependant on down tube, bottom part of the seat tube and chainstay design, and their interface at the bb.

My opinion on the Cervelo's: Great to see a new company making waves in the bike business. The R3 is not a pretty frame imo. The square down tube, oversize chain stays and tiny seat stays borders on ugly! I prefer the looks of the Soloist carbon. The Giant frame is a beaty, and the integrated seat tube looks very nice.

The LBS said that they can't get Cervelo frames, there is some problem getting stock. So if are set on getting one, perhaps you'll need some patience? 

[/quote]

Info came from a Cervelo newsletter, they were running a competion to win a R3 frame. But the stats, testing is from some other Bike mag that did all the independant testing.

Ja, must agree, on looks the Giant wins hands down, altough I think the tiny seatstays on the R3 looks cool. I also don't like all the Red on the Cervelo. Now if only they bring it out in the Blue version like they did with the R2.5 Bayone...

But I'm in no rush, like I mentioned earlear. Before I can justify a new frame, I have to get my @ss into shape.

Guess its time to call in CvanC's help. He apparently know the secret to success......smileys/smiley2.gif

[Christie]

Well, a new bike as a reward for losing 5kg sounds like great motivation.