pastapouch Posted April 6, 2006 Share Coyote, why don;t you try a soloist Carbon, don't know the price of the frame compared to the R3, but think it'll be a better buy? the other bikes, TCR advanced would also be a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorcesterWheelers Posted April 6, 2006 Share My short list is as follows (in no specific order):smileys/smiley17.gifGiant TCR AdvancedCervelo R3 - any one know who I can phone for a quote?Specialized S-Works Tarmac Any comments on my list?My heart still bleeds for a Colnago Christallo but ' date=' at R27k (local) and R23k(abroad), my head will bleed if my wife saw the price[img']smileys/smiley18.gif[/img]. For me it would be a close tie between the Giant (but the ISP version) and the R3, also very similar in price. For the Cervelo why not phone Richard Beswick direct, he's the Cervelo local agent. 011 7837530, or 0861 cervelo, richard@cervelo.co.zaThe R3 has some very impressive stats on stiffness to weight ratios! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorcesterWheelers Posted April 6, 2006 Share Lateral Bending Stiffness & STW (higher is better): Frame<?:namespace prefix = o />MaterialSizeWeightStiffnessSTWCerv?lo R3Carbon562.02238.90118.3Scott CR1Carbon562.14183.7085.8Giant TCR AdvancedCarbonL2.28145.7063.9La <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Pierre 999 X-LiteCarbonM2.50149.7059.9Cannondale Al CAAD9Aluminum563.03180.7059.6Specialized S-Works TarmacCarbon562.43135.6055.8Trek OCLV (1999)Carbon562.14118.0055.1ISAACCarbon55.52.46132.7053.9Cannondale SynapseCarbon562.67136.0050.9Litespeed GhisalloTitaniumM1.7181.4047.6Schwinn Al Fastback (2001)AluminumL3.13134.0042.8Schwinn Circuit 853 (1999)Steel564.10111.5027.2Mondonico Nemo (2005)Steel574.50114.7025.5 Just note, the Giant tested is the normal one, not the ISP (integrated seat post). But from these stats, the P3 wins hands down. smileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVANC Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW - if you buy an R3 I'm never joining you on a training ride again. smileys/smiley7.gifJust kidding. smileys/smiley36.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorcesterWheelers Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW - if you buy an R3 I'm never joining you on a training ride again. smileys/smiley7.gifJust kidding. smileys/smiley36.gif And what if I buy the matching P3.... smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVANC Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW - if you buy an R3 I'm never joining you on a training ride again. smileys/smiley7.gifJust kidding. smileys/smiley36.gif And what if I buy the matching P3.... smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gif No problem! Just make sure you get it in a large. smileys/smiley2.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domenic Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW, you want to buy the R3 and 3PC? CVanc will die of jealoucy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted April 6, 2006 Share But from these stats' date=' the P3 wins hands down. [/quote'] You'll probably pay in comfort for all that stiffness? If I remember correctly Bjarne said that these (Cervelo) bikes are not made for comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorcesterWheelers Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW' date=' you want to buy the R3 and 3PC? CVanc will die of jealoucy![/quote'] Ja I know! smileys/smiley36.gifThere just aint enough TT events around to justify that sort of money for a TT bike. smileys/smiley19.gifBut then again, I might just do it to see CvanC's face go smileys/smiley11.gifsmileys/smiley11.gifsmileys/smiley11.gif with envy.Only kidding CvanC. Perhaps we can share a P3C..... now just to figure out if we squeese you into a Medium, or make me stretch out on a Large....smileys/smiley36.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVANC Posted April 6, 2006 Share I'm sure I will fit onto a Medium. smileys/smiley18.gif just need to get very flexible. smileys/smiley36.gifA bit dissapointing that when you buy a Cervelo P3, you don't even get any TT wheels with it. I see the Giant with ISP also comes in a M/L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domenic Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW, don't you guys have regular fortnightly TT's? If not, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorcesterWheelers Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW' date=' don't you guys have regular fortnightly TT's? If not, why not? [/quote'] Yes, we started it a few months ago. Lots of fun, but I'm talking about races, not fun club events.But I'll let you know when the next one is to be held. I'm still to see CvanC in action, so we'll have to make a plan soon, to help prepare him for WP Champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brakkies Sport Fotos Posted April 6, 2006 Share As good as new Scott (Black) with Ultegra groupset Size medium. Bike in excellent condition R 7500-00 (ONCO) Contact Louis 083-267-8776 (Roodepoort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domenic Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW' date=' don't you guys have regular fortnightly TT's? If not' date=' why not? [/quote''] Yes, we started it a few months ago. Lots of fun, but I'm talking about races, not fun club events.But I'll let you know when the next one is to be held. I'm still to see CvanC in action, so we'll have to make a plan soon, to help prepare him for WP Champs. A lot of us want to see CVanc in action in a TT and your course is quite unique. Imagine having 20 something km's out and back without having to cross or stop for traffic once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorcesterWheelers Posted April 6, 2006 Share WW' date=' don't you guys have regular fortnightly TT's? If not' date=' why not? [/quote''] Yes, we started it a few months ago. Lots of fun, but I'm talking about races, not fun club events.But I'll let you know when the next one is to be held. I'm still to see CvanC in action, so we'll have to make a plan soon, to help prepare him for WP Champs. A lot of us want to see CVanc in action in a TT and your course is quite unique. Imagine having 20 something km's out and back without having to cross or stop for traffic once! Dont forget to mention that its actually on the N1 for 75% of the route. smileys/smiley4.gifReally a nice route for a TT, not entirely flat, but also no steap long climbs, basically a really nice 20.7km TT route. Highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVANC Posted April 6, 2006 Share Talk about the pressure to perform. smileys/smiley5.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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