slowpoke Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 what really p's me off is how it's the people who bith and moan the most when they are the victim of law being broken are the ones who maintain that they don't need to abide by the law "because no one else does". DO NOT cry when the wheel turns and your bad behaviour bites you in the arse.
noembus Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 The Legend thanks for feeling the same, I see Controlc is having a bad day and gets a bit cros when people take him on, so bring on the popcorn this is gonna last a couple of days again. Im just saying so what if someone dont stop at a red robot, if somethings happens to them it is their own fault, why does everybody stil trying to rule the world?? And mr Controlc i wasnt pionting fingers, i just said why do cyclist always have to bring this up,
Thug Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 Damn, only managed 81.6kph when I went down Sandton Drive on Wednesday morning, lucky for me the traffic light was green .
daggavis Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 Why would the metro cops police intersections to fine cyclists skipping red lights if their brothers in unroadworthy white coffins (Taxis) do the same?
E1A104 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 ControlC - I never overheat .... Noembus - We are not trying to rule the world, we just want people to follow the rules that are in place. If you think it's OK for a guy to take a gap at a red traffic light (they are NOT robots) and live with the consequences then it also has to be OK for your average lout to murder. rape and steal and live with the consequences of his actions.
TheLegend Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 ControlC - I never overheat .... Noembus - We are not trying to rule the world' date=' we just want people to follow the rules that are in place. If you think it's OK for a guy to take a gap at a red traffic light (they are NOT robots) and live with the consequences then it also has to be OK for your average lout to murder. rape and steal and live with the consequences of his actions.[/quote'] so you putting jumping a red robot in the same drawer as rape and murder? breaking a law is breaking a law?!!so is jay-walking, cutting a roundabout short, taking a blanket from the airline and taking the newspaper out of the docotrs waiting room....everyone does his little law braking. for me you have to differ though. but in any case: brake the law and accept punishment if it happens after and don't complain! (there's no robot on my way to office, only stop streets - often my two wheels don't come to a stillstand, cause there's no one around....I know I am braking the law!)
slowpoke Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Legend, either you are pregnant or you aren't pregnant. either you are law abiding or you aren't law abiding. the law is the law and until it changes deal with it. who are you to decide which laws are more important? the taxi drivers think there was nothing wrong with what they did to those poor girls who wore short skirts because in their opinion the girls were being disrespectful... what makes your views and opinions more important than theirs? (that is using your argument of you get to decide which laws need to be enforced and which don't)
bob_the_builder Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 ControlC - I never overheat .... Noembus - We are not trying to rule the world' date=' we just want people to follow the rules that are in place. If you think it's OK for a guy to take a gap at a red traffic light (they are NOT robots) and live with the consequences then it also has to be OK for your average lout to murder. rape and steal and live with the consequences of his actions.[/quote'] so you putting jumping a red robot in the same drawer as rape and murder? breaking a law is breaking a law?!!so is jay-walking, cutting a roundabout short, taking a blanket from the airline and taking the newspaper out of the docotrs waiting room....everyone does his little law braking. for me you have to differ though. but in any case: brake the law and accept punishment if it happens after and don't complain! (there's no robot on my way to office, only stop streets - often my two wheels don't come to a stillstand, cause there's no one around....I know I am braking the law!) I don't think E1A104 places the two crimes in the same drawer as you put it. I think he is rather commenting that the law is the law, and if you break it, you should be prepared and willing to accept the consequences.
TheLegend Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Legend' date=' either you are pregnant or you aren't pregnant. either you are law abiding or you aren't law abiding. the law is the law and until it changes deal with it. who are you to decide which laws are more important? the taxi drivers think there was nothing wrong with what they did to those poor girls who wore short skirts because in their opinion the girls were being disrespectful... what makes your views and opinions more important than theirs? (that is using your argument of you get to decide which laws need to be enforced and which don't)[/quote'] I don't know what gives you the impression that I make my opinions more important than anyone elses and what law is more important.I am just stating that there are these little laws brakings (endless list) EVERYONE does, has done and will do!What I say that in my humble opinion (!!) a rape or murder case for example should be attended to with more effort and strictness than someone walking over a red light when no car or whatever is approaching. I'm luckily not pregnant!
TheLegend Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 ControlC - I never overheat .... Noembus - We are not trying to rule the world' date=' we just want people to follow the rules that are in place. If you think it's OK for a guy to take a gap at a red traffic light (they are NOT robots) and live with the consequences then it also has to be OK for your average lout to murder. rape and steal and live with the consequences of his actions.[/quote'] so you putting jumping a red robot in the same drawer as rape and murder? breaking a law is breaking a law?!!so is jay-walking, cutting a roundabout short, taking a blanket from the airline and taking the newspaper out of the docotrs waiting room....everyone does his little law braking. for me you have to differ though. but in any case: brake the law and accept punishment if it happens after and don't complain! (there's no robot on my way to office, only stop streets - often my two wheels don't come to a stillstand, cause there's no one around....I know I am braking the law!) I don't think E1A104 places the two crimes in the same drawer as you put it. I think he is rather commenting that the law is the law, and if you break it, you should be prepared and willing to accept the consequences. well, I understood it different but as stated in my posts agree to what you say and what you think is his statement.
slowpoke Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Legend, just because most taxis drive the way they do doesn't make it right - so your argument that "there are these little laws brakings (endless list) EVERYONE does, has done and will do" sucks. the law is the law and as long as people don't respect the laws based on when THEY think it's a "little" law then we will continue to suffer the scourge of lawlessness that we do in SA.
bob_the_builder Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Legend' date=' just because most taxis drive the way they do doesn't make it right - so your argument that "there are these little laws brakings (endless list) EVERYONE does, has done and will do" sucks. the law is the law and as long as people don't respect the laws based on when THEY think it's a "little" law then we will continue to suffer the scourge of lawlessness that we do in SA.[/quote'] I couldn't agree more. I bore all my friends to death with this particular stance, mainly because I don't back down on this issue, and also cause I wont shut-up about it.
TheLegend Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Legend' date=' just because most taxis drive the way they do doesn't make it right - so your argument that "there are these little laws brakings (endless list) EVERYONE does, has done and will do" sucks. the law is the law and as long as people don't respect the laws based on when THEY think it's a "little" law then we will continue to suffer the scourge of lawlessness that we do in SA.[/quote'] that makes me tired!Never I stated that just because everyone is doing it it makes something right! enough hub time for me today - have a good weekend!
daggavis Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Dis omdat almal maak soos hulle wil dat dinge gaan in SA soos dit gaan. Taxis/karre war rooiligte skip rub aan ander padgebruikers af. As ander mense 'n f*k kan voel en doen wat hulle wil, dan kan ek ook mos doen net wat ek wil..Ek bly in n kompleks en elke idioot het n quadbike. Hulle start en tune die goed voor my voordeur en 'n moerse lawaai, my ore kan dit nie vat nie en my huis ruik na 2 stroke oil..este van als is hulle sleep nie hulle quadbikes met trailers na die naaste veld nie...nee ons ry hom sommer op die pad, geen flickers, geen ligte en plate..Dis onwettig aangesien die quads nie padwaardig is nie..Beste van als is hulle lift hulle klein kinders in die strate waar ander heavy verkeer ry.. Classic example van net nog f*k almal ek sal doen wat ek wil...
Flemish Lion Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Some people seem to lack a brain on this hub and make statements for other people (eventhough those people never made these statements) ... it's an opinion ... take it / leave it / comment on it ... don't CHANGE it!! As if NOT skipping a RED traffic light 'safely' is gonna turn this world into a better place! SA has more to worry about cyclist skipping RED traffic lights! If you are dumb enough to bring yourself or other people in danger while skipping a RED traffic light you deserve to get hit by a car or being fined ... just use your common sense ... oh forgot ... many here are lacking that!
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