Warren911 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Some interesting research published in a respected journal...just for some reading... Low Protein Intake Is Associated with a Major Reduction in IGF-1, Cancer, and Overall Mortality in the 65 and Younger but Not Older Population cellPIIS155041311400062X.pdf Edited March 6, 2014 by Warren911
SwissVan Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Some interesting research published in a respected journal...just for some reading... Low Protein Intake Is Associated with a Major Reduction in IGF-1, Cancer, and Overall Mortality in the 65 and Younger but Not Older Population cellPIIS155041311400062X.pdf Poor rats How much protein does "Low Protein intake" equate to?......... Should I reduce from 2 scoops to 1 scoop in my daily week day breakfast and from two eggs to one egg on Saturday and Sundays?
Jakkals. Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 and the world will once again become less clever with less protein.
ChUkKy Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 This is gonna get interesting, hope I got enough battery power to read all this when the power goes off again... Gonna have to buy jumping jack popcorn as I wont be able to make.
TALUS Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Taken directly from the article:"These results suggest that low protein intake during middle age followed by moderate to high protein consumption in old adults may optimize healthspan and longevity."
TALUS Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 I have printed the article. Will read it on the way back from the Argus.
Helpmytrap Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Here is another discussion on the topic, https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/113902-prof-tim-noakes-u-turn-on-carbohydrates/page__st__576#entry2232321 Regarding this "study."1. Sensational title.2. This study was based on a dietary survey. So not actually a study.3. One can’t prove causation through correlating statistics collected from questionnaires.4. Humans are not mice, so that part shouldn't actually be taken into account.5. The "study" only refers to the "protein consumption" of animal or plant forms, not once did it specifically mention meat, eggs, dairy, fish etc. The protein sources could have been from junk food.6. The results were observed, not proven.7. As Mayhem said, there was no control. Andreas Eenfeldt gave it a more appropriate title: “There is a 20 percent chance that meat quadruples the risk of cancer for people under the age of 65 and reduces the risk for older people.” As for the Kidney disease part, http://authoritynutr...a-nutritionist/ Nutritionist Says: “Protein is Bad For Your Kidneys” Answer: It is often claimed that a high protein intake can cause harm to the kidneys, but this is false. Even though it is important for people with pre-existing kidney disease to reduce protein, the same is not true for people with healthy kidneys.The studies show that a high protein intake has no detrimental effects of kidney function in healthy people, not even in bodybuilders that eat massive amounts of protein. StudiesManninen AH. High-Protein Weight Loss Diets and Purported Adverse Effects: Where is the Evidence? Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition, 2004. Martin WM, et al. Dietary protein intake and renal function. Nutrition & Metabolism, 2005.
Helpmytrap Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) As a side note, Dr. Valter Longo is the man behind this questionnaire study. The summary of the study states "These associations were either abolished or attenuated if the proteins were plant derived." - http://www.cell.com/...4131(14)00062-X He is the founder and on the scientific board of advisers for a company called L-Nutra. What does L-Nutra do? They produce diet supplements, one of which (ProLon) is solely plant-based.http://www.l-nutra.c....php/about/teamhttp://www.l-nutra.c...products/prolon Yes it is very conspiracy theorist of me but surely there must be a conflict of interest. It can't be purely coincidental that the man is punting plant based proteins over animal... Here is a good read by Zoe Harcombe in reply to the study, http://www.zoeharcom...bad-as-smoking/ Edited March 7, 2014 by Helpmytrap
SwissVan Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Agg jinna Plants with pesticides, fish with mercury, meat with GH and steroids....who knows what is good n bad these days My preferred choice of protein and carbs are these little fellows: Yes I know they filled with lots of bad yellow colorants, but they make me feel good... Warren911 1
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