Lone_Ranger Posted April 24, 2014 Share sorry if this has already been discussed in the mamba thread, didn't think of looking in there (and let's be honest, this is probably going to be a hot topic for a long time, so deserves its own thread) I like what you did there :clap: Shebeen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldFlow Posted April 24, 2014 Share Kindly back that up, will you? There is a longer, more complicated story involved.... I'm not prepared to break trust to spell things out here but let's just say I have pretty interesting evidence that SANP are in no hurry to stick to their own rehabilitation policies on the higher (than the lower rehab area) reaches of Tokai. The potential damage is mounting and mounting while the feasibility of the purported seedbed is diminishing all the time. A whole lot of fiddling going on while Rome burns..... Edited April 24, 2014 by OldFlow Headshot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted April 24, 2014 Share Heard a news report of Chappies also being closed due to the removal of alien vegetation - related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted April 24, 2014 Share Heard a news report of Chappies also being closed due to the removal of alien vegetation - related? No link between the 2 things Dale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie Posted April 24, 2014 Share it effectively prevents an uncontrolled burn, by getting rid of the residual fire-prone material left from logging. If it weren't burnt, it'd be a tinder box, and it's not going to be replanted with more pine. I'm not even a Botanist / Ecologisat and I understand this and reasons offered...why the debate??Fynbos NEEDS burning!! The frequency is the important factor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie Posted April 24, 2014 Share There is a longer, more complicated story involved.... I'm not prepared to break trust to spell things out here but let's just say I have pretty interesting evidence that SANP are in no hurry to stick to their own rehabilitation policies on the higher (than the lower rehab area) reaches of Tokai. The potential damage is mounting and mounting while the feasibility of the purported seedbed is diminishing all the time. A whole lot of fiddling going on while Rome burns..... so why would they also burn at Cape Point then? If there is this conspiracy theory...I think it is just part of their bigger plans re: burn strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted April 24, 2014 Share There is a longer, more complicated story involved.... I'm not prepared to break trust to spell things out here but let's just say I have pretty interesting evidence that SANP are in no hurry to stick to their own rehabilitation policies on the higher (than the lower rehab area) reaches of Tokai. The potential damage is mounting and mounting while the feasibility of the purported seedbed is diminishing all the time. A whole lot of fiddling going on while Rome burns..... This is a rather serious allegation, because it goes directly to the core of the SANParks mandate, which is firstly the conservation of our biodiversity. I understand your reluctance to give details, but I do hope someone will back this up with facts and detail. I also dislike the "fiddling"........ Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldFlow Posted April 24, 2014 Share I'm not even a Botanist / Ecologisat and I understand this and reasons offered...why the debate??Fynbos NEEDS burning!! The frequency is the important factor... Not sure what debate you are referring to? There is certainly no debate against a burn being needed. The ongoing problem is that this needs to happen soon after logging. It hasn't happened yet and the aliens are taking over at an accelerated rate like we've never before seen in Tokai. The past three months particularly have seen a massive proliferation of these invader species. The longer the situation continues, the more difficult it becomes to keep it in check and eventually rehabilitate the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldFlow Posted April 24, 2014 Share This is a rather serious allegation, because it goes directly to the core of the SANParks mandate, which is firstly the conservation of our biodiversity. I understand your reluctance to give details, but I do hope someone will back this up with facts and detail. I also dislike the "fiddling"........ Jakes for a beer and sliders sometime? P.S. - The whole situation has been described as a "cock-up" by someone waaaaay more credible than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowta Posted April 24, 2014 Share Jakes for a beer and sliders sometime? P.S. - The whole situation has been described as a "cock-up" by someone waaaaay more credible than me I believe SANParks received the same email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldFlow Posted April 24, 2014 Share I believe SANParks received the same email Koerek... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted April 24, 2014 Share The PR spin reason given by SANP on the face of it holds no water either - how can post burn follow up alien eradication be the issue when the pre-burn alien infestation is seemingly an even bigger problem. No fresh fynbos growth therefore more aliens out of control. Very much a case of fiddling while our home trails burn. This and SANPs recent attempt to justify curtailing night activity on the mountain as well as ticketing hapless harmless swimmers at the dam next to the Rhodes Mem access road leave me with little faith in SANP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie Posted April 24, 2014 Share Not sure what debate you are referring to? There is certainly no debate against a burn being needed. The ongoing problem is that this needs to happen soon after logging. It hasn't happened yet and the aliens are taking over at an accelerated rate like we've never before seen in Tokai. The past three months particularly have seen a massive proliferation of these invader species. The longer the situation continues, the more difficult it becomes to keep it in check and eventually rehabilitate the area. Ok, we are on the same page then...I'll accept your arguement about the need for burn after logging...as well as your info that all is not kosher in SANPARKS...I know.....as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranky Posted April 24, 2014 Share It's pretty clear that all is not well at SANParks: SANParks boss stands to get millions from MalaMala deal Sorry, back to the burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted April 24, 2014 Share Back on the burns -Lower Tokai todayhttp://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r251/mss-65/Tokaiburn01_zps70b308d3.jpg http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r251/mss-65/Tokaiburn03_zps7823ad7a.jpg And my humanitarian gesture for the year - I found this little guy desperately trying to get across the road and I gave him a helping hand http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r251/mss-65/Tokaiburn05_zps9915d060.jpg http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r251/mss-65/Tokaiburn08_zpsada2fb90.jpg Flowta and DJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldFlow Posted April 25, 2014 Share It's pretty clear that all is not well at SANParks: SANParks boss stands to get millions from MalaMala deal Sorry, back to the burns. He clearly had conservation at heart, all along.... NOT MUCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now