johannrissik Posted October 3, 2014 Share The one on the left is the Lion on stilts... I can tell...Yes, the ears are a dead give-away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Joe Cruzhttp://joecruz.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted October 3, 2014 Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_IQS3VKjA#t=208 At around 6.00min - new way to scale fences/ gates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liehann Posted October 3, 2014 Share Ha, that's exactly what I thought too, although I'd like to see it with a loaded FC bike. Danny Macaskill is in a different league though. I'm sure he could make The Ladder look quite rideable. Speaking of which - Ryan are you guys sure you don't want to go to Cape Town. There's so much you're missing out on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted October 3, 2014 Share Ha, that's exactly what I thought too, although I'd like to see it with a loaded FC bike. Danny Macaskill is in a different league though. I'm sure he could make The Ladder look quite rideable. Speaking of which - Ryan are you guys sure you don't want to go to Cape Town. There's so much you're missing out on. Race to Rhodes for me next year - have a few personal goals to achieve (read vendettas to settle). Full RASA 2016 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnitz Nienaber Posted October 4, 2014 Share Yip I also have got a score to settle, need to change the engine on the cannondale, way to slow this year. Might be getting old...... I might upgrade to this power house, with one of Johann's master keys nothing will stop me... http://www.bikesdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/bmw-r-1200-gs-adventure-jumping-style.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crazy German Posted October 4, 2014 Share Liehann just sent me a link to this thread. I only read through the past couple of pages but smiled at the fat bike report. I used to ride my Surly Pugsley across muskeg (a northern word for a brushy, boggy swamp) in Juneau, Alaska. Fat bikes are so stable that they do pretty well in off-trail situations, but you still need a pretty big engine to make it happen at anything faster than a very slow walking speed, and even then ... Would I take a fat bike on the Freedom Trail? No. But a strong rider who had enough upper-body strength to lift that beast up and over game fences could have some fun. I'm posting on this forum because I'm curious if anyone knows whether the route has ever been officially completed on foot on one go, and what the fastest time might be. I've been tracking the "Freedom Runners" — http://trackaphone.co.uk/callback/publish/mimi — two women who are en route to a thirty-ish-day finish. They just arrived in Rhodes after seven days. Theirs is a supported run, and that might be the only way to reasonably run the route (some long sections between water.) But I'm just curious what's been done in the past.On the fatbike a pugsley is a heavy snow/beach machine with the wrong angles to really have a go top go at off road trails. Mine is more trail set up I have a proper suspension front fork and wheel have been weighted down a lot as I ride 47 mm drilled trial rims in a tubeless set up. It does wonders for the handling. On speed it is slower then a 8kg carbon fiber skinny tire machine on dirt road. Though I don't believe it to be massive I am gonna take it to a full weeks race next week so we'll see hw the monster comes out. On the runners they run to a certain point and then get ferried to accomodation and then drive back to that point the next day so they are not dependend on the overnight stop locations. Aswell they don't follow the whole official route there are deviations at certain points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crazy German Posted October 4, 2014 Share Interesting bike and I don't know who the rider is, could probably figure it out by elimination. Here is the slightly controversial game fence pic again, (ie how not to stand on a fence), but here is that bike again, no wonder it needs two people to haul it up and over. The guy giving instructions with his back to us is the owner. Big mistake is too much weight on the bike. Mine is packed lightly its 16kg clean 18,5 with full bottles which can be chucked over under the fence easily. If I am well informed and my source normally is good it means that my bike weight is actually very close to Marnitz his bike with the bosslaperkie kit attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted October 4, 2014 Share Yip I also have got a score to settle, need to change the engine on the cannondale, way to slow this year. Might be getting old...... I might upgrade to this power house, with one of Johann's master keys nothing will stop me... http://www.bikesdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/bmw-r-1200-gs-adventure-jumping-style.jpgThe master key is a bit long even to carry on that machine, the handles would stick out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crazy German Posted October 4, 2014 Share Race to Rhodes for me next year - have a few personal goals to achieve (read vendettas to settle). Full RASA 2016 ...Comeon Ryan you know you wan't to do Rasa in 2015 on a fatbike we can ask Meryl to be seeded together and make it into a race. About 18 days later there will be two very cheap fatbikes for sale in Diemersfontein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnitz Nienaber Posted October 4, 2014 Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_IQS3VKjA#t=208 At around 6.00min - new way to scale fences/ gates... I managed some of the fence scaling technique this year on the way to Centocow in the dark, I went over landed flat on my airbag, but the bike stayed behind, if I only watched the video...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crazy German Posted October 5, 2014 Share The master key is a bit long even to carry on that machine, the handles would stick out...You need to swap that front tire mine is larger bigger and has more stud you will be outpowered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtrider Posted October 5, 2014 Share Danny did not get over that fence on his first few tries . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted October 5, 2014 Share Danny did not get over that fence on his first few tries .Who would?!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted October 5, 2014 Share Who would?!...Marnitz? Albeit sans biciclette... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilleo Posted October 5, 2014 Share I've raced before with Joe "The Professor" Cruz, 2012 White Mountains 100 in Alaska. He's strong on that Pugsley. I never liked Pugsley's handling; it was like driving a bus with a flat tire. I agree that there are many models of more modern fat bikes that are well designed for trail riding. My boyfriend owns a titanium soft-tail fat bike with a unique front shock that is incredibly fun and fast to ride in every situation I've tried it, from mixed trail and pavement riding to 100 miles of snow. My original comment was more in reference to the diminishing returns of pedaling over marginal terrain versus pushing. I frequently go through this debate with myself in my winter biking efforts ... "I can ride through this fluff at 3 mph at 90 percent effort, or walk at 2.5 mph at 70 percent effort ... how far can I get before I melt down entirely?" As Marnitz pointed out, it always comes down to the size of the engine in the end. If you have the strength, enjoy the effort, and can manage the obstacles, there's no reason not to ride a fat bike in the FC. My opinion, as an individual and knowing my own abilities, is I wouldn't take a fat bike because for every segment of technical trail I would be able to ride marginally faster, I'd lose many times over while riding slower on the long dirt road sections and pushing and lifting a heavier bike on the technical sections that are still beyond my skill set. (And my fat bike set-up would inevitably be heavier than my mountain-bike set-up.) Thanks for the info on past running efforts. I knew that David originally scouted the route on foot, but I was never clear on whether he did this in one trip or over many trips. Running this route self-supported would be such an intriguing challenge. Many of the really tough sections would be relatively easy on foot, and many of the easy sections (Willowmore to Prince Albert) would become a long, difficult, thirsty slog. You'd definitely have to plan differently than simply organizing supplies under the current support station-to-support station set up. Not that I'm actually considering it ... just a fun thought exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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