Trail Ninja Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Could anyone please help with the following: Rank the components in the topic in order in terms of quality please. Example - SLX, Deore, XT, SRAM etc. And give comments regarding this Thanks
rouxtjie Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Quality ito what Weight Durability Looks Performance
Vangar Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Like rouxtjie said, and also different years for shimano ranks differently, this years Deore is about Last SLX quality etc. Depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Also strangest first post ever.
Pure Savage Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Well you cant rate SRAM (an ENTIRE brand) against a product from Shimano, you need to know what type of SRAM. It would go, Dura Ace, Ultegra, 105, Tiagra, XTR, XT SLX Deore Sram would go: Red, Force, attack, xo, x9 x7 x5. Forgot the obligatory
rouxtjie Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Maybe best overall package maybe OP(weight / price / durability / performance) If that is the case, then its better to look at each component that makes up a groupset...cherry pick the crown jewel in each from different manufacturers and you set Remember there is no rule that you have to have a full XT / XO / SLX / XTR group...some components won't be compatible(rear shifter and rear DR needs to be same brand), but for the rest...gooi a mixed bag
KaKa Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 are you trying to determine the hierarchy of the range?
patches Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 This has been dealt with numerous times, but finding the right keywords to search is the tricky part. So here goes... Shimano and SRAM both have a numbering system. SRAM's is easy,Bottom of range to top - X5, X7, X9, X0, XX, X01, XX1. Shimano's numbering is more cryptic. One has to look at the model numbers. Bottom of range to top) - Alivio (M4xx), Deore (M5xx), SLX/Zee (M6xx), XT (M7xx), Saint (M8xx), XTR (M9xx). Now the trick comes in when trying to compare... As a generalization one could say the one brand has an equivalent in the other (ie. XTR 11sp = XX1)... but that is debatable. So if I were to draw up the scale it would look something like this (this is take on things). Bottom to top. Alivio/X5 (either way entry level)DeoreX7SLX/Zee (Zee is specifically for Gravity bikes)XTX9X0Saint (Saint is also Specifically for Gravity bikes)XTR 10spX01XX1XTR 11sp Once again, this is just my take on things. Not the final say on the matter.
Pure Savage Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/111399-xt-groupset-2x10-no-rotors-new/ Thank me later. Now can we talk about cross bikes and where to get tyres, frames and brakes? Also will somma normal road wheels work?
fanievb Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 This has been dealt with numerous times, but finding the right keywords to search is the tricky part. So here goes... Shimano and SRAM both have a numbering system. SRAM's is easy,Bottom of range to top - X5, X7, X9, X0, XX, X01, XX1. Shimano's numbering is more cryptic. One has to look at the model numbers. Bottom of range to top) - Alivio (M4xx), Deore (M5xx), SLX/Zee (M6xx), XT (M7xx), Saint (M8xx), XTR (M9xx). Now the trick comes in when trying to compare... As a generalization one could say the one brand has an equivalent in the other (ie. XTR 11sp = XX1)... but that is debatable. So if I were to draw up the scale it would look something like this (this is take on things). Bottom to top. Alivio/X5 (either way entry level)DeoreX7SLX/Zee (Zee is specifically for Gravity bikes)XTX9X0Saint (Saint is also Specifically for Gravity bikes)XTR 10spX01XX1XTR 11sp Once again, this is just my take on things. Not the final say on the matter. awesome summary
rouxtjie Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 ..... Bottom to top. Alivio/X5 (either way entry level) Deore X7 SLX/Zee (Zee is specifically for Gravity bikes) XT X9 X0 Saint (Saint is also Specifically for Gravity bikes) XTR 10sp X01 XX1 XTR 11sp Once again, this is just my take on things. Not the final say on the matter.You say tomatoe I say tomato Ascending Electronic XTR XX1 XTR 10sp XTR 11spd Alivio/X5 (either way entry level) Deore X01 X7 Saint / Zee X0 XT 10 spd / X9 SLX 10 spd
Vangar Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 awesome summary This has been dealt with numerous times, but finding the right keywords to search is the tricky part. So here goes... Shimano and SRAM both have a numbering system. SRAM's is easy,Bottom of range to top - X5, X7, X9, X0, XX, X01, XX1. Shimano's numbering is more cryptic. One has to look at the model numbers. Bottom of range to top) - Alivio (M4xx), Deore (M5xx), SLX/Zee (M6xx), XT (M7xx), Saint (M8xx), XTR (M9xx). Now the trick comes in when trying to compare... As a generalization one could say the one brand has an equivalent in the other (ie. XTR 11sp = XX1)... but that is debatable. So if I were to draw up the scale it would look something like this (this is take on things). Bottom to top. Alivio/X5 (either way entry level)DeoreX7SLX/Zee (Zee is specifically for Gravity bikes)XTX9X0Saint (Saint is also Specifically for Gravity bikes)XTR 10spX01XX1XTR 11sp Once again, this is just my take on things. Not the final say on the matter. Agreed awesome summary.....but you forgot X1
patches Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 You say tomatoe I say tomato Ascending Electronic XTRXX1XTR 10spXTR 11spdAlivio/X5 (either way entry level)DeoreX01X7Saint / ZeeX0XT 10 spd / X9SLX 10 spd hahaha! I see what you did there... like you I too wouldn't be keen to replace the cassette on one of those 11sp drive trains, so yes that would count against them in my books.
patches Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Agreed awesome summary.....but you forgot X1 too right, Well I'd say it slots in between XTR 10sp and X01
rouxtjie Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 hahaha! I see what you did there... like you I too wouldn't be keen to replace the cassette on one of those 11sp drive trains, so yes that would count against them in my books.yea look that is from a pure "value" proposition. So on paper XX1 / XTR 11spd doesnt make sense...but eish, one look at them through the bike shop window and all reason goes for a ball of crap mooi bly mooi...just can't bring myself to ride ugly things...No pun
Daniel J Méssem Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 dont forget the 'year' of the components, ie new Deore probably better than old xt etc.
Trail Ninja Posted November 4, 2014 Author Posted November 4, 2014 Cool thanks guys Old MTBer, but has never really caught on to what is best in the component range, thas why I posted. It may seem wierd to some, just though I would get your opinionsWould be upgrading my bike next year maybe, so need to consider the correct components or combinations
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