Juriekruger Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Hi Everyone, I'm looking at doing a few stage races and most of them say in the rules that you need a first aid kit. I am just wondering if anyone could give some advice on what to get and where to carry it? I have a camelback but space is limited on it. Do you just add a bottel/bag on the seatpost? Thanks
Raggy Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Also what would be included will be interesting.
V12man Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 1 small sachet of saline eyedrops - 2 if it's muddy.1 4x6 inch wound dressing1 extra large tampon (wound plug)1 space blanket And the rule of first aid kits applies - whatever you need, you won't have... PS - also make sure you have charge in your phone and the emergency contact details somewhere - either inyour phone or on your number board AND a screen on your GPS that shows your position co-ordinates - so you can tell the poor guy where to find you when you are in deep dwang...
Imploder Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 What about: 1 small sachet of saline eyedrops - 2 if it's muddy.1 4x6 inch wound dressing1 extra large tampon (wound plug)1 space blanket And the rule of first aid kits applies - whatever you need, you won't have... PS - also make sure you have charge in your phone and the emergency contact details somewhere - either inyour phone or on your number board AND a screen on your GPS that shows your position co-ordinates - so you can tell the poor guy where to find you when you are in deep dwang...Antiseptic CreamCrepe (sp?) bandage
RocknRolla Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Antihistamine tablets like celestamine or such, even if you are not an allergic person. My wife who has never been an allergic person went into anephylactic shock during a ride a short while ago. Luckily, a nut allergy sufferer kindly gave her some celestamine, which basically saved her life. also immodium. - nuf said.
JanJan Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 https://www.mountainmailorder.co.za/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=2599 Only 180 grams. You can also fit a small tube of eyedrops, a small tube Bactroban and your medical aid card in it.
V12man Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 What about: Antiseptic CreamCrepe (sp?) bandageThats for the medics tent to keep - do you want to carry 3liters of saline to clean the wound too? The idea is to carry the minimum with you that you need in an emergency - you really cannot carry a complete kit for every possible alternative. The only thing that really worries me is a serious bleeding wound (that's the tampon and/or wound dressing) and shock - thats what the space blanket is for - which can also be used in a pinch to help extract someone. Broken bones - keep patient still, call for helpSuspected concussion - keep patient still,call for helpunconcious - call for help - check airways, bleeding and cardiacBleeding - stop the bleeding - quick, call for helpAirway blocked - unblock asap - and call for help (I hope you know what you are doing at about this point...)Heart stopped - call for help, CPR and so on and so forth..... and FFS stop and find the person shouting for help... and help them. Antiseptic... waste of packing space..... bandage... well... I also forgot - I also keep a tube of superglue with me - this has uses for many things - including minor bleeding wounds - it is in my puncture kit. If you are concerned about HIV or have it, then a set of surgical gloves - me, I will take my chances to save the 10 seconds it takes to find and put them on.
V12man Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 https://www.mountainmailorder.co.za/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=2599 Only 180 grams. You can also fit a small tube of eyedrops, a small tube Bactroban and your medical aid card in it.Specs:Pack III Contains: First Aid Guide, 10 Adhesive Bandages 3/8” x 1 1/2”, 10 Adhesive Bandages 3/4” x 3”, two Adhesive Bandages 2” x 4”, two Knuckle Bandages, six - 4” Adhesive Strips, three Gauze Pads 3” x 3”, two Gauze Pads 2” x 2”, one Eye Pad, three Alcohol Pads, three Antiseptic Pads, two Ammonia Inhalants, one Scissors, one Moleskin 3” x 4”, three Travel Towels, one - 2 3/8” Steel Needle. The Pack III measures 4 1/2” x 7 3/8” and 1” and weighs 6 oz. The Pack III measures 4 1/2” x 7 3/8” x 1” (11.4 x 18.7 x 2.5 cm) and weighs 6 oz. (180 g) Useful for scratches only... otherwise not much use.... not quite sure what you are supposed to do with the steel needles without suture....... if they were pins I might have an idea....
Raggy Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 V12man. Good feedback. Reasonable logic too. edit: Not sure you get unreasonable logic? What about Panado/ Disprin. Just help for those minor scratches to survive the ride back
David Greyling Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 "Spend a bit less on your bicycle so that you can save money for a rainy day" ~ there, unreasonable logic...
David Greyling Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I know it takes up space, but some detol waterless hand wash in the small package you can buy at dischem is often useful. Fairly small and in a hydration pack is negligible size wise.
V12man Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 V12man. Good feedback. Reasonable logic too. edit: Not sure you get unreasonable logic? What about Panado/ Disprin. Just help for those minor scratches to survive the ride backI don't think you should be riding multi day events if you need panado/disprin/NSAIDS to make it through the day... better to add a tiny pack of sunblock and some butt cream. Please don't get me started on the use of NSAIDS during endurance excercise.... rather search... I have been vocal about it in the past. Unreasonable logic has a specific name which I forget..... One has to distingush between emergency first aid and a minor scratch patch kit - they are not the same.... a paramedics emergency bag generally has wheels for a reason.... to be useful in an emergency, you really need a LOT of kit to cover most things - I used to keep a big kit in my car - cost me a fortune to build and keep it stocked and up to date - never used it... now I don't drag it around anymore, and most of the drugs have been removed - and it still weighs around 40+kg.
s14phoenix Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 1 more thing... superglue... to glue your wounds closed.... seriaaaas.
Firozfx Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I'm no doctor but what about disprin to thin blood. Apparently. My cousin had a heart attack on his first ride at Northern Farms 2 years ago. Luckily he started having it as we stopped to load the bikes. Managed to get him to a hospital with minutes to spare. Been told that the disprin would have aided?
V12man Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I'm no doctor but what about disprin to thin blood. Apparently. My cousin had a heart attack on his first ride at Northern Farms 2 years ago. Luckily he started having it as we stopped to load the bikes. Managed to get him to a hospital with minutes to spare. Been told that the disprin would have aided?Probably would have been good for that, - BUT - probably not much good for your average stage racer... who should be in better than average shape. Generally you should not give an injured person anything by mouth unless you are a medical proffessional - makes the ER doc's job messy sometimes... There are of couse exceptions, like asthma meds, people what carry epi pens etc - hopefully they will have medic alert bracelets or similar on.
Juriekruger Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 So basically get a small first aid kit from Dischem and add superglue, Antihistamine , space blanket and a big tampon?
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