Barker Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Just wish to add something here - keep in mind that you also get Aero frames for road bike which are not necessarily TT / Tri bikes. Will a marshall even know the diffrence when you get to the gate?
Barend de Arend Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I believe it has something to do with your hands not being close enough to your brake levers when riding on the aero bars in such close proximity to other riders (in case you need to stop quickly). Most triathlons are non drafting, so no need to be near the breaks as there is no one in front of you who is going to anchor at a moments notice.. Apparently.... (but not confirmed) if you slide the aero bars far back enough so that the front ends are behind the brake levers then it is legal, but like I say, I have never been able to confirm this with a race organiser.. The second danger is that bullhorns can hook easier, locking handlebars. This is mitigated if the foremost point aero bars are behind the brake levers. This makes bicycles legal for draft-legal triathlons, but they are still illegal for mass-start cycling events.
Kranswurm Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 it's a bit bad to generalise, as not all people who do these tri races are such dweebs. Anyone doing a mass event with big bunches on their TT bike is a dweeb. It's peak unitard season right now with the big ironman coming up, so plenty of these dweebs on the road - clearly argus day was no different.Dweeb..... a boring, studious, or socially inept person.
rudi-h Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Rudi-H you have obviously come here to vent as you swim like a brick and run like a snail. Back to the point up for discussion those guys should never have been allowed to ride the Argus. I doubt even if they were Ironmen cuz Ironmen never draft. In fact real men don't suck wheel in the first place. Sucking wheel is something you roadies do that have a soft underbelly and limited talent (one sport). haha. i'm not good with emoticons, otherwise i would have put a wink somewhere in there. but that said, some of the most obnoxious people I've ever met happened to be triathletes. in general they're not a too bad bunch and the vibe at IM is probably the best of all events i've ever done, so all triathletes are not knobs. you are right that I suck at swimming though...
Garfield2010 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I made arrangements at a local race upfront to ride my TT bike. I started a few minutes behind and rode on my own. Here and there a leech sucked wheel but whenever the road went uphill I rode the wild lings of my wheel. After the race various roadies inquired as of what it will take to join the "master race" and after explaining the non drafting, running and swimming they all decided to rather remain roadie peasants.
Barend de Arend Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 BMX bikes are legal for BMX events. Mountain bikes are legal for MTB events. Mountain bikes with disk brakes are not legal for UCI-sanctioned road events. Mountain bikes with snow tires (studded) are not legal for UCI-sanctioned mass-start events. (road, mtb, cx) Road bikes with tribars or spinaci bars are not legal for UCI-sanctioned mass-start events. Road bikes with tribars or spinaci bars are legal for UCI-sanctioned non-mass-start events. Mountain bikes with spinaci bars are unlikely to be legal for UCI-sanctioned mass-start MTB events. Mountain bikes with spinaci bars are legal for UTI-sanctioned mass-start Xterra events, depending on the length of the spinaci bars. Dunno if BMX bikes are legal for UCI-sanction mass-start road events, but they probably aren't. I assume the saddle setback is too short. CTCT is not UCI-sanctioned. Some RSA non-UCI sanctioned mass-start events still use the tribar rules. "apply" is a different question. RSA events in general don't apply all the rules.
Shebeen Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Dunno if BMX bikes are legal for UCI-sanction mass-start road events, but they probably aren't. I assume the saddle setback is too short. CTCT is not UCI-sanctioned. Some RSA non-UCI sanctioned mass-start events still use the tribar rules. "apply" is a different question. RSA events in general don't apply all the rules.bmx, unicycles all ok. tri bikes no go. http://www.cycletour.co.za/enter/rules-and-regulations/2.9 A rider shall not ride a bicycle fitted with triathlon, time trial or “Spinachi”-type bars and the organisers reserve the right to disallow the use of certain types of bladed wheels that are considered unsafe.
Shebeen Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I made arrangements at a local race upfront to ride my TT bike. I started a few minutes behind and rode on my own. Here and there a leech sucked wheel but whenever the road went uphill I rode the wild lings of my wheel. After the race various roadies inquired as of what it will take to join the "master race" and after explaining the non drafting, running and swimming they all decided to rather remain roadie peasants.You must be hardcore. You caught up to and then overtook the guys at the back of the field? Did they make you pee in a bottle afterwards?
rudi-h Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I made arrangements at a local race upfront to ride my TT bike. I started a few minutes behind and rode on my own. Here and there a leech sucked wheel but whenever the road went uphill I rode the wild lings of my wheel. After the race various roadies inquired as of what it will take to join the "master race" and after explaining the non drafting, running and swimming they all decided to rather remain roadie peasants. sorry to say, but referring to other cyclists as "wildlings, leeches and peasants" and to call IM the "master race" is part of the problem... IM is really not that tough, i found bike touring to be much harder on the body and mind. edit: spelling
Garfield2010 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 sorry to say, but referring to other cyclists as "wildlings, leeches and peasants" and to call IM the "master race" is part of the problem... IM is really not that tough, i found bike touring to be much harder on the body and mind. edit: spelling Only kidding. I am a roadie, tri-athlete, road runner, MTB'er and a crap swimmer. Every sport has its idiots.
Garfield2010 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 You must be hardcore. You caught up to and then overtook the guys at the back of the field? Did they make you pee in a bottle afterwards?They tried to but I couldn't pee as I pissed on the bike. Thats what Ironmen do, they piss on the bike cuz we dont draft. Even more hardcore. Has any roadie ever pissed in the middle of a bunch?
Shebeen Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 They tried to but I couldn't pee as I pissed on the bike. Thats what Ironmen do, they piss on the bike cuz we dont draft. Even more hardcore. Has any roadie ever pissed in the middle of a bunch? probably..sometimes they get their riders to come around so it's a bit private. sometimes they give ZERO FU(KS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_avl_dvOkk
Fabian46 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 AFAIK the CTCT is not a UCI sanctioned race, but an internationally recognised fun ride....so...I suppose anything is allowed. Corrections welcomed...
Mongoose! Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Rudi-H you have obviously come here to vent as you swim like a brick and run like a snail. Back to the point up for discussion those guys should never have been allowed to ride the Argus. I doubt even if they were Ironmen cuz Ironmen never draft. In fact real men don't suck wheel in the first place. Sucking wheel is something you roadies do that have a soft underbelly and limited talent (one sport).BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Shebeen Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 AFAIK the CTCT is not a UCI sanctioned race, but an internationally recognised fun ride....so...I suppose anything is allowed. Corrections welcomed...read up a few posts....according to their rules no tri bars allowed...but then again ipods and mankinis also banned, but hard to monitor.
Garfield2010 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Riding with TT bikes in these big classic races are very dangerous and irresponsible. Not only will your insurance not pay out but the other riders involved in a crash with you will have a strong case against you should they charge you for their damages as well as medical costs. A lot of people in these races are novice and don't keep straight lines. The TT Bike was not made for manoeuvrability so it is extremely hard to evade and control it as speed. It was made to go in a straight line.
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