Saag Posted March 19, 2015 Author Posted March 19, 2015 Take into account that my current lid also does not offer much protection (Giro, something or other), and that I will probably buy a new lid with more back and side protection for "normal" rides....
popcorn_skollie Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I'm not convinced, as is the case with a lot of the commenters on this: http://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-bell-super-2r-helmet-impact-testing-2014.html Full face situations call for a full face helmet. Not a flexy piece of plastic where your teeth are. Thing is. It should go without saying. I don't think of this off as a fullface helmet with a conveniently removable chin. But rather a half lid with an optional bit for extra protection on the way down. If I'm to take my downhill bike on a shuttle day. I'm going to use a proper fullface helmet. Look at this thinghttp://crev.vo.llnwd.net/o42/mtbreview/images/products/medium450/product_413925_10623.jpg No dedicated downhiller would trust this thing or expect the same protection.Just common sense. If Bell was trying to flogg the 2R as a helmet that was built as strong as any fullface out there it would be different. But they havn't.
NicoBoshoff Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 People seem to suffer a false sense of security whenever they go for a ride with a single crown fork. Going 30kph down Firehut can kill you. So it comes down to what is practical. I'm not convinced this helmet will do what it says it will at those speeds on those trails, nevermind DH. Technically we should be riding full face lids whenever we point our bikes downhill at failry high speeds, but it's not practical. Going 50 down jeeptrack and coming off will also benefit from a full face helmet, but riding the Epic with a FF is not going to happen. I think this is a money-making racket exploiting perceived improvements of safety, when in truth there isn't a solution to the problem yet.
popcorn_skollie Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 People seem to suffer a false sense of security whenever they go for a ride with a single crown fork. Going 30kph down Firehut can kill you. So it comes down to what is practical. I'm not convinced this helmet will do what it says it will at those speeds on those trails, nevermind DH. Technically we should be riding full face lids whenever we point our bikes downhill at failry high speeds, but it's not practical. Going 50 down jeeptrack and coming off will also benefit from a full face helmet, but riding the Epic with a FF is not going to happen. I think this is a money-making racket exploiting perceived improvements of safety, when in truth there isn't a solution to the problem yet.I agree. But that extra bit is better than nothing
NicoBoshoff Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I agree. But that extra bit is better than nothingIs it R2 000 better?
Skylark Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Everything is a money making racket, unfortunately. The 2R is better than nothing in terms of the protection the clip-on part offers, its a compromise like anything. The level of protection you require is a choice, soft pads are less effective than hard shell pads, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that but due to soft pads being easier to pedal many still choose them and don't suffer any ill effects. They probably do modify their riding to suit the level of protection though, unless that is they are very deficient in the brain dept and in that case no amount of extra protection will save them from injury.
Brian Fantana Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I agree. But that extra bit is better than nothing It is better than nothing, but here is the problem: If the extra bit around the front of your face gives you more confidence that you can ride faster, will it provide the additional protection required when you crash at the higher speed? If a safety product gives you extra confidence, it should provide extra protection as well.
popcorn_skollie Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Is it R2 000 better? It is better than nothing, but here is the problem: If the extra bit around the front of your face gives you more confidence that you can ride faster, will it provide the additional protection required when you crash at the higher speed? If a safety product gives you extra confidence, it should provide extra protection as well. True. But here's where I see the fault with that argument. Riders will always be looking for new lids. Of those who consider the 2R, some will inevitably opt for a new half lid instead because they don't trust the flexy mouthpiece. Thats what I mean by better than nothing. The guys who need a new fullface shouldn't be considering the 2R anyways. Nico: To be frank, yes.I agree that the 2R is overpriced. Even for a product sold in an industry where everything is already overpriced. But how many of us have opted for something that costs double the alternative because is weighs 100 grams less. Lasts 20% longer. I'd say justifying most of those purchases would be harder than trying to save my teeth. Even if its just some of them
Iwan Kemp Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 Super 2R available here for R3,149https://mxalliance.co.za/product/bell-super-2r/
An3 Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 to save others time: Bell Super 2R MTB Helmethttp://mbaction.com/home-page/product-test-bell-super-2r-enduro-helmet
Wolf Lyle Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 Stupid question, But is MXalliance legit? I've never heard of them before . Some nice 661 product there. No one seems to have stock of the 661 comp full face , not even the suppliers. but these guys seem to.. any one bought from them?
Iwan Kemp Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 They've been around for a while and are well-known and respected in the motorbiking community. Have just ordered some gear from then and the communication (and prices) have been great so far.
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