NicoBoshoff Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I personally moved away from flats and 5.10's for exactly the opposite reasons Marko. Could never get my foot to land in the same spot. Also got micro shifts on very rough terrain. Like an undy that kept kreeping up my arse. Hated it. I love riding clipped in.
Headshot Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 Shame is that the best you have?All that practice trolling to come up with that?Please stop derailing other people's threads.Actually, the rest of you okes had already derailed it pretty good...:-)
marko35s Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Actually, the rest of you okes had already derailed it pretty good...:-)We were at least still yakking about shoes rather than making yet another tiresome attempt to ruin a thread.[emoji1]
Headshot Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 I personally moved away from flats and 5.10's for exactly the opposite reasons Marko. Could never get my foot to land in the same spot. Also got micro shifts on very rough terrain. Like an undy that kept kreeping up my arse. Hated it. I love riding clipped in. But you can ride clipped in and in 5.10's. I have the Hellcats with Dx pedals. They are heavy as shite but boy do I feel more secure than the same pedals with my Spaz dirt roadie shoes. They are also strong. I have crashed and hiked and ridden a lot in them and not a stitch is loose or a tear, or an injury to my foot. The grippy soles are a bonus and don't even wear fast when you hike in them... And they look cooler than Jack P. Golefty - you just a jealous XC 61 cm barred #enduro wannabe. Man get a life - buy some 510's and TLD Moto Shorts and grow up man :-) Pyjamas are fikkin cooool. Slippers are even better. This thread is only for real men who appreciate a good skate shoe and Stealth Rubber... :-)
Chip Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I spoke to Bruce Reyneke Cycles yesterday, they are getting rid of all their Five 10 stock at cost, they have Impact VXI's for R1650....great price, but very limited stock.
RockCoach Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Karkloof Traildaze a few weeks back I hit a stump with my foot at over 40km/h. If it wasn't for the Impacts (apt name huh?) I reckon I would have a couple of broken toes. Instead just a badly bruised big toe. Mr Lefty, I have 20 years of clipped in road racing and 10 years cleated MTBing experience and I prefer flats. Neither is right or wrong - just a preference. This thread is for those who have made up their minds and don't need convincing.
rudi-h Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 the real question when considering the price of 5-10's... you probably own a trail bike that doesn't come cheapyou probably ride like (or try to ride like) a badass for considering flats in the first placeyou probably spend lots of cash every year to drive/fly to gnarly trails then the question, is another R600 for more expensive shoes really such a big deal? They might save your shins, your toes and possibly prevent numerous falls that you were going to have had you lost grip somewhere along the way... I think its R600 well spent. Especially since most spez, gareau, sidi etc. shoes are north of R3k for a flimsy lil road shoe
NicoBoshoff Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 the real question when considering the price of 5-10's... you probably own a trail bike that doesn't come cheapyou probably ride like (or try to ride like) a badass for considering flats in the first placeyou probably spend lots of cash every year to drive/fly to gnarly trails then the question, is another R600 for more expensive shoes really such a big deal? They might save your shins, your toes and possibly prevent numerous falls that you were going to have had you lost grip somewhere along the way... I think its R600 well spent. Especially since most spez, gareau, sidi etc. shoes are north of R3k for a flimsy lil road shoeYeah...because flex is what the pro's go for.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Yeah...because flex is what the pro's go for.The uppers, bro - I'd far rather take a toe / foot strike whilst wearing 5-10's than a set of Sidi XC / Road shoes.
Hairy Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 the real question when considering the price of 5-10's... you probably own a trail bike that doesn't come cheapyou probably ride like (or try to ride like) a badass for considering flats in the first placeyou probably spend lots of cash every year to drive/fly to gnarly trails then the question, is another R600 for more expensive shoes really such a big deal? They might save your shins, your toes and possibly prevent numerous falls that you were going to have had you lost grip somewhere along the way... I think its R600 well spent. Especially since most spez, gareau, sidi etc. shoes are north of R3k for a flimsy lil road shoebit of assumption going on here RE trail riders expendable income. personally a cycling shoe (Disco or flat), even at the R1200 mark is flipping expensive ....... Flat still has me wanting to try it out, just struggle to lay out lot's of ZAR's on them and a decent set of flat pedals whilst I have SPD's that are just about indestructible and a pair of disco shoes that have last many years abuse and has also seen it's fair share of toe strikes at speed. Yet flats still have a calling for me that will be answered at some or other stage. It is just price that makes it prohibitive for me.
NicoBoshoff Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 The uppers, bro - I'd far rather take a toe / foot strike whilst wearing 5-10's than a set of Sidi XC / Road shoes. Yeah I don't think people who ride carbon soled clipless shoes are at great risk of high speed toe strikes. Compared to a proper mtb clipless shoe (Giro Terraduro for example) flats have no appeal to me. Rode flats. Tried riding them again. Hate the feeling.
NicoBoshoff Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Anyways, little rhetorical question. How many people really ride flats for their perceived / alleged / even real benefits rather than the cool factor?I only ride baggies because they look better. They offer me no benefit over lycra. Not ashamed to admit that. Still one of my massive gripes with DH history - the whole "skinsuits may be faster but they look lame so let's ban them" argument. I find it hard to swallow that where being the fastest is the aim yet that get's sacrifised at the altar of image and ego.
rudi-h Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 bit of assumption going on here RE trail riders expendable income. personally a cycling shoe (Disco or flat), even at the R1200 mark is flipping expensive ....... Flat still has me wanting to try it out, just struggle to lay out lot's of ZAR's on them and a decent set of flat pedals whilst I have SPD's that are just about indestructible and a pair of disco shoes that have last many years abuse and has also seen it's fair share of toe strikes at speed. Yet flats still have a calling for me that will be answered at some or other stage. It is just price that makes it prohibitive for me.Wasn't saying trail riders are rich, was just saying that good shoes will be worth much more than R600 when it saves you a trip to the emergency ward... I see it the same way as a helmet, you spend money to protect your lid, no questions asked. Why not spend good money to protect your feet (and any other body part that you might injure during a crash)
Hairy Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Anyways, little rhetorical question. How many people really ride flats for their perceived / alleged / even real benefits rather than the cool factor?I only ride baggies because they look better. They offer me no benefit over lycra. Not ashamed to admit that. Still one of my massive gripes with DH history - the whole "skinsuits may be faster but they look lame so let's ban them" argument. I find it hard to swallow that where being the fastest is the aim yet that get's sacrifised at the altar of image and ego.I ride baggies over my bib shorts as they do provide protection that lycra could simply not give me. Nice wipeout and sliding stop usually includes some skin lost with torn lycra, when falling wearing baggies I loose skin till where the baggies start and the baggies bear the brunt. You can see where they took the impact and then once washed they look good as new again. So now all my shredded lycra gets a second chance at life under good old regular baggies / board shorts, I don't do the whole MTB specific baggies thing.
Samurai Pizza Cat Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Anyways, little rhetorical question. How many people really ride flats for their perceived / alleged / even real benefits rather than the cool factor? I only ride baggies because they look better. They offer me no benefit over lycra. Not ashamed to admit that. Still one of my massive gripes with DH history - the whole "skinsuits may be faster but they look lame so let's ban them" argument. I find it hard to swallow that where being the fastest is the aim yet that get's sacrifised at the altar of image and ego.Nico, I think you're missing the point. Flats teaches you better body position for all the stuff you don't need when you are a XCM racer. ( Jumps, railing berms, whips, bunny hops, etc.). There is a reason that a lot of top Gravity riders started on BMX bikes....sure the 10 000 hour rule applies, but they also learnt a lot of good habits by being on flats and small wheeled unforgiving bikes. I'm in the same boat as you, I tried flats and suddenly I've gone back 2 years in my skill set. I know I need to learn how to jump on flats, I just not in the mood to spend 6 months doing it...Being clipped in definitely has massive benefits: Almost all the top pro's are clipped in, in all the diciplines. So it's not about what is better, it is about learning to ride your bike better. The same reason I believe that most newbies should be on 26" hardtails....I managed to bring wheel size into this Getting back to your post: Being on flats have nothing to do with the "cool" factor.And finally 5:10 rocks. A great company with great products!
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