Fat Boab Posted August 20, 2015 Share I hope I'm not opening a can of worms here? So I ride an entry level-ish carbon road bike and I'm starting to think of what-next down the track. Partially window-shopping; if I'm honest probably all window shopping at this stage! Anyway I'm thinking more of an endurance-type road frame, rather than an out and out 'racing' frame, where I'd be happy trading an extra bit of frameset weight, if required for comfort as and when my training rides go beyond 3 hours. So to date I've been thinking along the lines of a Trek Domane, Spez Roubaix sort of deal. So here's my questions: how would a modern steel frame eg Ritchey Logic or whatever, compare against the Domane/Roubaix? Road feel, comfort, trade off of weight, a.n.other categories? Your thoughts would be much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udxcob Posted August 20, 2015 Share I ride a logic on the road endurance, cant say i am a total roadie but no problem with the frames on long distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted August 20, 2015 Share steel. do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted August 20, 2015 Share steel. do it. But why? Don't tease us, tell us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J∆kk∆ls Posted August 20, 2015 Share I switched to steel MTB. Can't wait to get a steel road bike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted August 20, 2015 Share Why not treat yourself and for less than the price of a Roubaix or Domane frame, get a custom steel frame built for you by Dave Mercer? 6 months after you pick up your Carbon beauty, Spez and Trek will have launched the next year's model (which they cunningly painted in a different scheme so every one can see you ride an obsolete bike) whilst the Mercer will always be built just for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted August 20, 2015 Share But why? Don't tease us, tell us! the roots of bicycles are in steel frames, they look more conventional than silly plastic bikes made in vaccuum molds. yes good steel if meant to give a more forgiving rode so much so that its often to the detriment of stiffness in the rears where you want it stiff, like the BB etc. spend a lot of money and you can get something with the best of both. compliance and stiffness where it counts. you pay a weight penalty but its worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted August 20, 2015 Share Why not treat yourself and for less than the price of a Roubaix or Domane frame, get a custom steel frame built for you by Dave Mercer? 6 months after you pick up your Carbon beauty, Spez and Trek will have launched the next year's model (which they cunningly painted in a different scheme so every one can see you ride an obsolete bike) whilst the Mercer will always be built just for you. So any idea what DM charges for a custom road frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted August 20, 2015 Share around R14k upwards I think. sounds expensive but them compare to what guys are paying for dogma's etc, you could let him go mad with custom details, have a frame completely made to your measurements, colour etc and still way cheaper than a high end carbon bike that everyone is riding and that gets dated in 18 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted August 20, 2015 Share There is nothing special about steel. Having said that, and before anyone tries to crucify me, allow me to explain. As a kid, I rode a DHC steel bike, it got me from A to B. It was my only means of transportation, so sometimes A and B were a good distance apart. It was nothing special. Several years ago, as a new recreational cyclist, I got a heavy as hell aluminium GT road bike. Trained with it, raced with it. It was a better ride than the steel kid bike, but not much. I then progressed to a CAAD10, which most riders agree is one of the best aluminium frames ever built. It was a significantly better ride than the GT, for races, short rides, and really long rides. I still have it. Finally, I moved to quality carbon, a Supersix EVO. There is no, and I mean zero, comparison. My carbon bike is better when riding slow, fast, uphill, downhill, short distance or long distance. Just as I will never trade my German luxury for the old Ford Escort I owned as a youngster, I will never trade my EVO for the old DHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddaman Posted August 20, 2015 Share Steel is good for fun, but race snakes will chose carbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted August 20, 2015 Share Steel is real. Real soft. It rides like an old sofa - comfy and smooth. If its. All day comfort you're after steel is the way to go. If it's out and out speed then carbon. In betweener - try one of the "comfort carbons" that have become popular lately. I dig the DM idea. Timeless steel. Carbon dates really quickly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted August 20, 2015 Share Finally, I moved to quality carbon, a Supersix EVO. There is no, and I mean zero, comparison. My carbon bike is better when riding slow, fast, uphill, downhill, short distance or long distance. If you think there is a single frame that can do ALL of those things the best you need to ride more frames! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 20, 2015 Share There is nothing special about steel. Having said that, and before anyone tries to crucify me, allow me to explain. As a kid, I rode a DHC steel bike, it got me from A to B. It was my only means of transportation, so sometimes A and B were a good distance apart. It was nothing special. Several years ago, as a new recreational cyclist, I got a heavy as hell aluminium GT road bike. Trained with it, raced with it. It was a better ride than the steel kid bike, but not much. I then progressed to a CAAD10, which most riders agree is one of the best aluminium frames ever built. It was a significantly better ride than the GT, for races, short rides, and really long rides. I still have it. Finally, I moved to quality carbon, a Supersix EVO. There is no, and I mean zero, comparison. My carbon bike is better when riding slow, fast, uphill, downhill, short distance or long distance. Just as I will never trade my German luxury for the old Ford Escort I owned as a youngster, I will never trade my EVO for the old DHCBut have you tried a good quality steel with a good component spec, out just the old klunker you owned as a kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted August 20, 2015 Share If you think there is a single frame that can do ALL of those things the best you need to ride more frames! I don't think I said that.... read carefully, I was saying it's the best of the frames I've owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted August 20, 2015 Share But have you tried a good quality steel with a good component spec, out just the old klunker you owned as a kid? That would be a resounding no. I believe in moving forward, not backward. Others disagree, some like steel, no problem. I stated my personal opinion, and I stick by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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