Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Not bad at all, but also almost halfway to a rs revelation....is the upgrade worth it or bote the bullet for the rs?I've been reading that it's seriously worth it.
Mawbs Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 its definately worth it to upgrade the damper, i did it on my evolution 140 and made a big difference.... my next upgrade is going to be WL wheels for sure
Saag Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 Thanx all. Will upgrade to WL and do the FIT upgrade
Sparki 1 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Thanx all. Will upgrade to WL and do the FIT upgradeSome great advice you got here bud. Please bump this thread once you did the upgrade and give us some feedback will ya.
Suidwes Boytjie Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Just a question on the AC WL... The hubs? Are they faster engaging hubs than the Stan's 3.30 hubs? Also looking at upgrading my wheelset from Stan's Arch to the AC WL...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Just a question on the AC WL... The hubs? Are they faster engaging hubs than the Stan's 3.30 hubs? Also looking at upgrading my wheelset from Stan's Arch to the AC WL...No, unfortunately not. Stans are 30 point engagement, the AC's are 24 (from what I'm able to see) From Iwan's review: My only complaint would be the slow engagement of the rear hubs. By no means terrible, just not in tune with modern offerings and definitely something that takes getting used to. Even more so when there's an Industry Nine hub on my other bike. Pedaling up technical single track takes some careful planning and requires consistent pedaling - something that's not always possible on tricky sections. Once up to speed though, there are no complaints. Also, I haven't Enduro'ed them, but I would imagine that with a 2.7mm wall thickness they will be too thin to bash day in and out. I have had them on three 29" bikes (Steel Single Speed, 100mm Dual Suspension race bike, Trail 29er) and they were comfortable doing duty on all three. The extra cushioning of the lower pressures were welcome on the single speed, the low weight (especially when factoring in tyres as well) was welcome on the race bike, While on the trail 29er they took whatever was thrown at them in their stride. After months of use they are still true and dent free and haven't needed any TLC. VerdictOne always has to remind oneself with reviews to put personal preference aside and see something for what it is or meant to be. In this case, however, I feel comfortable to call the Wide Lightnings game changers. Until you've tried wider rims for yourself there's no way to properly describe the impact it has without sounding like hype or that you've just spent too much time in the sun. When I got my first set of Wide Lightnings, I did not think such grip, traction and comfort was possible at this weight. They are definitely very good as XC, Marathon and trail wheels, and are more than happy to play out on the trails without the worry of breaking - not something that can be said of other race wheels. Besides, where can you buy one wheelset that will cover so many bases and look good doing it? Get out there and drink some of the wide rims cool aid.
Saag Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 Some great advice you got here bud. Please bump this thread once you did the upgrade and give us some feedback will ya.Will do! Already send a PM to Droo, so got the ball rolling....now to find a good deal on some white lightnings
mtbride Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Will do! Already send a PM to Droo, so got the ball rolling....now to find a good deal on some white lightnings Ja see the prices have gone up quite a bit, I paid R6200 for mine in January ...
raptor-22 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 What fork do you currently have? I'd always upgrade the fork first. Blindly following wheels first for upgrade is like taking your Golf TSi, fitting a pair of GTi maggs and then hoping it will handle like a GTi whilst having std suspension.There much more benefit to bike handling in having properly tuned and tunable suspension than shiney new wheels. Fork wins the upgrade stakes for me hands down, but it depends what you already have fitted and is it optimised?
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 What fork do you currently have? I'd always upgrade the fork first. Blindly following wheels first for upgrade is like taking your Golf TSi, fitting a pair of GTi maggs and then hoping it will handle like a GTi whilst having std suspension.There much more benefit to bike handling in having properly tuned and tunable suspension than shiney new wheels. Fork wins the upgrade stakes for me hands down, but it depends what you already have fitted and is it optimised?He has the 2014 Fox 32 CTD Evo. Which he's going to upgrade to the new FIT damper...
raptor-22 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Not bad at all, but also almost halfway to a rs revelation....is the upgrade worth it or bote the bullet for the rs? Much of a muchness. The new FiT4 damper is at least on par with current RS dampers. The RS-1 damper though is in another league completely but ya no well R21,000-00 is a bit ore than just an upgrade
raptor-22 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 PS: be carefull on wheels. I have been throwing my legs over some WideLightnings and I'm thinking that although these are not as wide as AM rims they may be a bit wide for Marathon and Jozi type trails. they square the tyre off enough to make a noticeable difference to how a tyre feels.You get used to it but it may not be to your liking. I'd suggest you try and test a pair with your favourite tyre. You may appreciate that a slightly narrower rim like the AMerican Classic Disc 101 Tubeless may be more to your liking and its available as a separate rim which allows you to choose your hubs. WL are wheelset only although free rims can be found on Ebay from time to time
raptor-22 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I've been reading that it's seriously worth it. Ye reviews are saying that its a big change and after riding a 120mm 32 with FiT 4 I will venture to say it is an big improvement. Theres less dive under braking and the front wheel seems to track better once you have the set up more or less tuned. The big difference is that turning the knobs actually does something unlike with CTD
mtbride Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 PS: be carefull on wheels. I have been throwing my legs over some WideLightnings and I'm thinking that although these are not as wide as AM rims they may be a bit wide for Marathon and Jozi type trails. they square the tyre off enough to make a noticeable difference to how a tyre feels.You get used to it but it may not be to your liking. I'd suggest you try and test a pair with your favourite tyre. You may appreciate that a slightly narrower rim like the AMerican Classic Disc 101 Tubeless may be more to your liking and its available as a separate rim which allows you to choose your hubs. WL are wheelset only although free rims can be found on Ebay from time to time It will square off some tyre brands more than others. For me, with my Schwalbe's I'm very happy, as it takes less lean angle to get to the side knobs. It might cause more rolling resistance because now you can run lower pressures and it makes a round tyre more square, but for me it's worth it to gain the advantages of the wide rims.
raptor-22 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 It will square off some tyre brands more than others. For me, with my Schwalbe's I'm very happy, as it takes less lean angle to get to the side knobs. It might cause more rolling resistance because now you can run lower pressures and it makes a round tyre more square, but for me it's worth it to gain the advantages of the wide rims.Yes it's a trade off I agree. Hence that trade off may not be to everyones liking.I simply run a 2.25 now to maintain some roundness to the tyre. Schwalbes seem to be higher volume casing so they are less affected but the squaring off effect. Hence if going WideLightning tyre consideration is a bit more important than with a Disc 101 Tubeless. I reckon those are wide enough anyway at 28mm.WL at 32mm are really more into high volume All Mountain territory. but they're light enough for XC/Marathon at 370gr per rim(average)
Stevief Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I have got the 2014b Camber comp and have put on the AC WL and they brilliant. I dont have an issue with engagement and i have ridden them on very harsh terrain. My fox fork is being serviced at Omnico as we speak must i tell them to uograde to FIT ASAP!!!!
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