SwissVan Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 they strip the TDF winners of titles, the literally don't have a clean rider for some of the years and everyone is "blown away" now by THIS shock and horror , cycling before 80% of hubbers were born was known for PEDs. seriously its a question how can any of you say that you are shocked or you didn't know the sport you were getting into professionally was full of drugs??? honestly I think if you are on that level or anywhere near that level if you don't know that and you think its going to change I GOT NEWS FOR YOU, call them a cheat, call them what you want, it has not been proven that there was Never a "clean" period and there never will be, if you going to cry about PEDs rather don't compete, genetically there never has been a man stronger than chemicals, the day that happens PEDs might drop off, not fall away, while athletes count on beeeg pay days and contracts its safe to say you will be racing a juice head, prostitution is the oldest trade,prohibition never worked,PEDs in sport will never change does it make it right??? NO, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS Seems like P is quite a persistent problem letter The sad thing is you just never know who is taking what (unless of course they get bust)...the rest of the time its under the radar...no one knows.... It could be your best tjom (not yours directly, generalizing i am) Very sad if you are an honest hard working athlete just trying your best and happen to achieve something
sakkiebomskok Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 the way I see it, background always helps. When I done the whole gym bunny thing from std 8, training my ass off I looked around and I could point out natural, bulking, cutting, good genetics, if you want to look like the steroid freak you cant sit crying in the corner because you trying to do the hard work angle and you look like a chess team captain, you know WHY HE LOOKS LIKE THAT???? SO DO YOU START BODY BUILDING THINKING YOU GOING TO BE THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, AND HARD WORK WILL PAY OFF maybe from doing gym looooong years ago I have a different perspective, but in cycling every hero I looked up to used juice, if I want to get to that level surely I would be full of shitt thinking im the exceptionExactly! If you want to look like you were carved out of a block of cement then you'll have to do the juicing thing(99% of the time) BUT... juicing doesn't mean you can work any less. In fact. You'll probably be working harder. AND THAT is where people must wake up. Just because Marian jones juiced doesn't mean she didn't work twice as hard as everyone else(who also juiced) i know alot of pro rugby players and trust me. The bok players don't look the way they do coz they eat lots of steak. The are always on the edge of what is legal and what is not. I say.. Make drugs legal.. Then we'll see some good rugby(just kidding;)
BarHugger Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 the way I see it, background always helps. When I done the whole gym bunny thing from std 8, training my ass off I looked around and I could point out natural, bulking, cutting, good genetics, if you want to look like the steroid freak you cant sit crying in the corner because you trying to do the hard work angle and you look like a chess team captain, you know WHY HE LOOKS LIKE THAT???? SO DO YOU START BODY BUILDING THINKING YOU GOING TO BE THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, AND HARD WORK WILL PAY OFF maybe from doing gym looooong years ago I have a different perspective, but in cycling every hero I looked up to used juice, if I want to get to that level surely I would be full of shitt thinking im the exceptionYou have not looked up to me yet......your problem right there.......
DIPSLICK Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Seems like P is quite a persistent problem letter The sad thing is you just never know who is taking what (unless of course they get bust)...the rest of the time its under the radar...no one knows.... It could be your best tjom (not yours directly, generalizing i am) Very sad if you are an honest hard working athlete just trying your best and happen to achieve somethingnothing wrong with that, you just never going to play on the same level for the same periods of time,the achieve something part, should be for yourself
DIPSLICK Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 You have not looked up to me yet......your problem right there.......hit a couple of yellow tee hemp
BarHugger Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 hit a couple of yellow tee hemp I have yellow GT stripes on my cycling shorts padding.....all good things in time
SwissVan Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Dude, this is actually a "double muscled" cow, it is a natural genetic mutation.A mate of mine did is MSc on them with the aim of trying to isolate the gene. These cows have twice the meat and half the fat of a normal cow. In theory good for meat production, but the females are so muscled (in certain female regions) that they can't give birth naturally and therefore it is hard to breed them. I cant believe (in my best JM voice)Scary, if i saw a cow like that while i'm out on my mtb....
Latent_Blue Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 If I remember right, you're a medical specialist so you know better than anyone just how hectic some of those products are. And some that are highly addictive too. This is the sort of list that your average 20-something gym bunnie with zero medical background does his shopping from. And many of our vets in the racing bunches as well, from what we've been told. Things like Zolpidem, Dormicum, Zopiclone, ketamine, morphene... Now these are some serious stuff... these things are used in anaesthesia or mental hospitals.... this is just insane... as a doctor I never even knew it was this easy to get these things... I am actually speechless
Undun Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Things like Zolpidem, Dormicum, Zopiclone, ketamine, morphene... Now these are some serious stuff... these things are used in anaesthesia or mental hospitals.... this is just insane... as a doctor I never even knew it was this easy to get these things... I am actually speechless I saw that as well. Im interested to know how and why people would use Horse tranquilizers?Is it sore to inject other PED's and then they use the Ketamine to take away the pain?How can you train on these things?
SwissVan Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 nothing wrong with that, you just never going to play on the same level for the same periods of time,the achieve something part, should be for yourself Of course, its all about self respect and being able to sleep at night jada jada (and that's not a dig ) We've already seen how the Vets are lumped in this category of suspicion, justifiable? or just pernicious rumours? We wont know until....wham bam bust...which does not happen often enough (depending on your point of view)
Mudsimus Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 I got caught with needles once. No one believed me when I said I use them to pierce my nipples.
Tumbleweed Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Wonder what would happen if you did this with humans for 10 generations. Imagine Usain bolt and Marian jones blood line! Human-bovine relations are still illegal as far as I know. And more taboo that doping...
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