Delgado Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 and the res: Fencing Jyoti Chetty Adele Du Plooy Elvira Wood Michael Wood Dario Torrente Sello Maduma Randall Daniels (Coach) Guennadi Tyshler (Coach) Dario was with us in the sports company SADF PD School Aug 1987 intake. Still doing the business at 40+.......good man!! Will never forget how pi$$ed off Dario used to get with us when we used to ask him if he was off to go "swordfighting" that day!!!
hagar Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 just watched an insert about anriette schoeman on kwela and they were talking about her going to beiging but on the list here her name does not appear what gives ?? anyone know
Sean Badenhorst Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 This is not the final cycling team, nor the final South African Olympic team. Various criteria need to met in different sports and different disciplines at different times. Track and Field team will be named later, as will a few other disciplines. Women's road riders will be named after this week's Tour of Chongming Island in China. That team is: Marissa van der Merwe, Cherise Taylor, Chrissie Viljoen, Lynette Burger, Robyn de Groot and Anriette Schoeman. I think we get two places in the Beijing road race. I reckon Marissa and Cherise should be our two for Beijing. Sifiso needs to make at least the quarter-finals at the BMX world champs at the end of May to qualify for Beijing. He's usually ranked 15-20th on average on the UCI rankings, but SA has to be in the top 11 countries to get an automatic start spot. At the moment SA is 12th (up from 19th last November!) and unlikely to overtake Venezuela, which is 11th and which has three hotshot riders compared to our one. So it all depends on his World Champs,which is pretty tough cos BMX racing is a bit of a lottery. One slip of the pedal and your race is over! How's this for irony: Sifiso, a black sportsman from a low income family, has to qualify for the Olympic Games through the 'front door' ie on merit in accordance with his and SA's world rankings. The rhythmic gymnast, Odette Richard and the archer fellow, both white from high income families, were able to qualify for the Games through the 'back door', having to win the Continental Champs titles in their respective sports, ie, not on merit! Two levels of qualification for Olympic Games: one on merit and applicable to countries which are deemed to be developed in terms of that particular sport and one in the interests of universality, where that country is deemed to be developing in terms of a particular sport. More reason to give Sifiso our support!
Sean Badenhorst Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Yes, Leon Scheepers is a highly-rated, but little-known SA cycling coach. Did coach Evans and De Villiers. Interestingly, Evans is now coached by David George, who is has a UCI Level 2 coaching qualification I think.
Sean Badenhorst Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Swimmers normally take their own coaches to the Games, if at all. Usually you just need a manager for the swimming squad as the coaches are all pretty unique in their ways and it's not easy for a swimmer to just adapt to a new coach for a couple of weeks. Big fencing team! Not surprised we're developed such good fencers with such high levels of crime in this country... Pity we don't have an Open-gates team. With the number of brilliant side-stepping white collar criminals in this country, we'd fill that podium. Or maybe Nigeria would get one of the medals...
TheLegend Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 why does it matter who comes from what income background?
Sean Badenhorst Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 I pointed out the irony of this because this country is so preoccupied with giving previously (or currently) disadvantaged people (mostly black) more opportunties, especially in sport, while advantaged (mostly white) people are getting disgruntled about losing out as a result. And here we have the complete opposite! Which, if you think about it, is actually really cool! Ironic, but cool!
Racing Hart Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 How's this for irony: Sifiso' date=' a black sportsman from a low income family, has to qualify for the Olympic Games through the 'front door' ie on merit in accordance with his and SA's world rankings. The rhythmic gymnast, Odette Richard and the archer fellow, both white from high income families, were able to qualify for the Games through the 'back door', having to win the Continental Champs titles in their respective sports, ie, not on merit![/quote'] PLEASE SPARE ME THIS POLITCAL BULLSH*T
TheLegend Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 If that's your humour ok. I think that whole discussion is just a pain and bringing it up here won't just change anything but might jsut lead to fruitless moaning. But well... one thing, please enlighten me: are there any "previously disadvantaged people" that are not black that receive support? which sports? The trek boere were also previously disadvantaged and should receive more support
Witrot Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Great to see David made it.... Only one question' date=' Why John Lee? He has done jacjk sh*t this year. There are far better choices than him. 1000 bucks only David finishes the Road race.[/quote'] Maybe you should follow whats going on at the races before saying he did jack sh*t!!! He has been in winning brake aways at a tour stage or 2 and had bad luck from punchers close to the end.
TheLegend Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 How's this for irony: Sifiso' date=' a black sportsman from a low income family, has to qualify for the Olympic Games through the 'front door' ie on merit in accordance with his and SA's world rankings. The rhythmic gymnast, Odette Richard and the archer fellow, both white from high income families, were able to qualify for the Games through the 'back door', having to win the Continental Champs titles in their respective sports, ie, not on merit! [/quote'] PLEASE SPARE ME THIS POLITCAL BULLSH*T Sean, "you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth"?TheLegend2008-04-23 13:46:04
Sean Badenhorst Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Having covered an Olympic Games as a journalist and having seen the kind of politics that actually dominates everything, from selection, to support, to who carries the flag, to who should have carried the flag to who, was asked but didn't want to carry the flag, to who is covering up injuries, etc, etc, it's impossible, unfortunately, to not bring up politics when discussing the Olympic Games, especially team selection. Personally, I think all our Olympic athletes deserve their selection, whether it's via the 'back' or the 'front' door. They'd never send a donkey to this thoroughbred race. I just think that in terms of the Olympic team selection, South Africa has reached a welcome level of maturity by being able to select white athletes through the 'development' route and black athletes through the 'merit' route! I have pointed out the irony as well as shown how pleased I am about this. Now, just throw your support behind Sifiso so he can also qualify for selection. His website url is www.sifisonhlapo.com
Delgado Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 How's this for irony: Sifiso' date=' a black sportsman from a low income family, has to qualify for the Olympic Games through the 'front door' ie on merit in accordance with his and SA's world rankings. The rhythmic gymnast, Odette Richard and the archer fellow, both white from high income families, were able to qualify for the Games through the 'back door', having to win the Continental Champs titles in their respective sports, ie, not on merit![/quote'] PLEASE SPARE ME THIS POLITCAL BULLSH*T Sean maybe they got in bercause they are currently disadvantaged?
Chunky Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Gadi Chait is in for track! Why ????????? No disrespect but Morne Blignaut is miles ahead in terms of the Kierin. I still cant understand what these selectors are doing. So, Gadi wins the B world champs but only beacuse Morne wasnt there. If you put the 2 together, Morne will win 110 times out of 100.
linnega Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 How's this for irony: Sifiso' date=' a black sportsman from a low income family, has to qualify for the Olympic Games through the 'front door' ie on merit in accordance with his and SA's world rankings. The rhythmic gymnast, Odette Richard and the archer fellow, both white from high income families, were able to qualify for the Games through the 'back door', having to win the Continental Champs titles in their respective sports, ie, not on merit![/quote'] PLEASE SPARE ME THIS POLITCAL BULLSH*T Easy tiger - just because you don't understand what irony means doesn't give you reason to attack Sean.
Breeze Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Gadi Chait is in for track! Why ????????? No disrespect but Morne Blignaut is miles ahead in terms of the Kierin. I still cant understand what these selectors are doing. So' date=' Gadi wins the B world champs but only beacuse Morne wasnt there. If you put the 2 together, Morne will win 110 times out of 100.[/quote'] I might be wrong, but I don't think somebody is going for the track - though have qualified through B-worlds. As understood if they send somebody for the track it will have to be a medal contender and SASCOC seems does not 'recognize' B-worlds. In the end it is not up to CSA but SASCOC to make the final call on this. However, the track riders' qualifications can not change anymore - thus should riders have gone for track - should they not have been announced? Track & Field - my dad follows it and seems there is still a qualification event (s) somewhere to come and the final team for that will only be announced after that. Girls - not sure. I know that the ladies was a little under pressure as SASCOC was looking at performance in NZ - to see if a medal contender finally comes out somewhere - so maybe after this tour they are on now? As I have it, the final team for the whole Olympics will only be announced towards the end of May. Please note - the above is all just hearsay and I do not have any official info.
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